Scope of NatureNS: Re: Long again: Re: Long: Re: [NatureNS]

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   Interesting Dave
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   You say =EF=BB=BF corn to alcohol initiative was a disaster!
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   and then go on to say &#34;But all to often some anticipated negative ef=
fect is enough to derail a undertaking that on balance would be very benefi=
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   Seems to me that is what you want to do with the ethanol initiative.
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   Not many folks will recognize John Murtagh - a maritimer by choice for a=
 few years.
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   One of the Maritimes leading scientists - I was lucky enough to work for
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   him before his breakthrough and that&#39;s not so long ago and now you w=
ant
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   to throw it out? I understand - he didn&#39;t work for the government!
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   Enjoy early winter
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   Paul
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   On December 21, 2014 at 10:12 AM David &#38; Alison Webster &#60;dwebste=
r@glinx.com&#62; wrote:
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    Hi Fred,&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;=
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;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; Dec 21, 2014
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    &#160;&#160;&#160; Good intentions have a way of goings astray; no doub=
t about that.
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    &#160;
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    &#160;&#160;&#160; Mandated targets for biodiesel e.g.&#160;led to rapi=
d expansion of the tropical Palm Oil industry with ghastly human and enviro=
nmental consequences. The corn to alcohol initiative in the US is another d=
isaster.
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    &#160;&#160;&#160; Tinkering with any complex system generates a need f=
or rapid feedback and control so unforseen adverse consequences can be nipp=
ed in the bud. Otherwise an initiative will fly like one of Goddard&#39;s e=
arly rockets; squirm around until propulsion and gravity are acting in the =
same direction.&#160;Or in other words follow&#160;the course of least resi=
stance.
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    &#160;&#160;&#160; Ideally one would apply resistance so action combine=
s maximum positive effects with minimum negative. But all to often some ant=
icipated negative effect is enough to derail a undertaking that on balance =
would be very beneficial.
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    &#160;&#160;&#160;Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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    &#160;&#160;&#160; .
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     Fred Schueler
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     <strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, December 20, 2014 9:00 PM
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     <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: Scope of NatureNS: Re: Long again: Re: L=
ong: Re: [NatureNS] light
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     On 12/20/2014 6:33 PM, David &#38; Alison Webster wrote:
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      &#160;&#160;&#160; Opposition to wind generation has often come stran=
gely enough&#160;from Naturalists; organizations or individuals. This was h=
elped I expect by a famous site in California that was set in a raptor migr=
ation channel in a mountain pass by, what a concidence, a Petrochemical Com=
pany.
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    <br/>* experience in Ontario has been that these &#34;green&#34; energy=
 projects are often put in by ecologically insensitive firms, prompting the=
 new provincial motto of Ontario &#34;green is black.&#34;=20
    <a href=3D"http://www.saveostranderpoint.org/#sthash.LufTSMYD.dpbs">htt=
p://www.saveostranderpoint.org/#sthash.LufTSMYD.dpbs</a> is a tale of a win=
d farm in an &#34;important bird area&#34; where the Ministry of the Enviro=
nment joined the &#34;proponent&#39;s&#34; appeal of a decision that the pr=
oject posed an unacceptable risk to a SAR, and the whole basis of the Ont