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oject posed an unacceptable risk to a SAR, and the whole basis of the Ont <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org= /TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"><html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xht= ml"><head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type= "/> =20 </head><body style=3D""> =20 <div> =EF=BB=BF  <strong> December 21, 2014 at 1:37 PM David & Alison Webster <dw= ebster@glinx.com> wrote:</strong> <br/>Hi Dave </div>=20 <div> I take it your education has been somewhat lacking. </div>=20 <div> but I guess government so called scientists don't get out much! </div>=20 <div> Enjoy the holidays </div>=20 <div> Paul </div>=20 <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-left-co= lor: blue; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; position: rela= tive;" type=3D"cite">=20 <div> <strong>Hi Paul,</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>    My enigma machine is down so the thrust of y= our post is not clear. I have never heard of John Murtagh so you must know = my nephew who has never heard of him either.</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>   </strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>    Corn to ethanol was promoted as a carbon neu= tral fuel and, if produced using manure, elbow grease and ox or horse power= then perhaps it gets close to that. But when it is produced using the inte= nsive inputs of industrial agriculture then the overall system generates mo= re carbon emission than use of petrochemicals without ethanol. And the= subsidized ethanol fuel market resulted in less food corn production, high= er food prices and hardship for those with a traditional diet high in corn.= </strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong> </strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>    And I object to the insinuation that I selec= tively support only ideas generated by government employees because that is= 100% off base. I judge ideas on merit not origin.</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong> </strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>    I do however strongly support the value of G= overnment funded science provided it is entirely free of pressure, especial= ly political pressure. That resource in needed to keep industry somewhat ho= nest and to act as an advisory source for government. A large amount i= n industrial research in the US is (or has been) actually funded = by government to mutual advantage.</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong> </strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville.</strong> </div>=20 <blockquote style=3D"padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-right= : 0px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: #000000; border-left-width: 2px= ; border-left-style: solid;">=20 <div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-str= etch: normal;"> <strong>----- Original Message -----</strong> </div>=20 <div style=3D"background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-a= djust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-color: black;"> <strong>From: <a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@n= s.sympatico.ca</a></strong> </div>=20 <div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-str= etch: normal;"> <strong>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebuc= to.ns.ca</a></strong> </div>=20 <div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-str= etch: normal;"> <strong>Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:09 PM</strong> </div>=20 <div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-str= etch: normal;"> <strong>Subject: Re: Scope of NatureNS: Re: Long again: Re: Long: Re: = [NatureNS] light</strong> </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div> <strong>Interesting Dave</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>You say =EF=BB=BF corn to alcohol initiative was a disaster!</= strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>and then go on to say "But all to often some anticipated n= egative effect is enough to derail a undertaking that on balance would be v= ery beneficial."</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>Seems to me that is what you want to do with the ethanol initi= ative.</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>Not many folks will recognize John Murtagh - a maritimer by ch= oice for a few years.</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>One of the Maritimes leading scientists - I was lucky enough t= o work for</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>him before his breakthrough and that's not so long ago and= now you want</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>to throw it out? I understand - he didn't work for the gov= ernment!</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>Enjoy early winter</strong> </div>=20 <div> <strong>Paul</strong> </div>=20 <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 10px; margin-le