FW: [NatureNS] Photographing high tides

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From: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
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Thanks, Roy, for your very detailed and fascinating response!  And another
great advertisement for that Nature Canada Conference Aug. 1-5 in Wolfville=
!
Anyone interested in information on the Conference, or registration forms,
just Google "nature2007".   Best from Jim
----------
From: Roy Bishop <rg@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:04:16 -0300
To: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Photographing high tides

Thanks Jim for copying these messages. Actually the wharf you refer to is
not the gypsum wharf; it is the Minas Basin Pulp & Power wharf (formerly th=
e
"government" wharf). The two photos appeared on the Blomidon Naturalists
Calendar for the year 2000 (March page).

I can add some information:

The tides at Hantsport are nearly the same as at Burntcoat Head, being only
a foot or two less in vertical range. The problem at Burntcoat Head is that
when the tide is low the water is far away because of the gently sloping
bottom of Minas Basin at that location. That is, the tide at Burntcoat Head
goes "out" horizontally at long way, thus the vertical range of the tide is
not apparent. At Hantsport there is a steeply sloped bottom plus two large
wharves (MBP&P and Gypsum) that dramatically highlight the vertical range
and sheer "volume" of the tide. The wharves are much larger than at Medford
or Hall's Harbour. Also, the tide range at Hall's Harbour is considerably
less than in Minas Basin.

The only problem at Hantsport is that no provision whatsoever has been made
for spectators. Hantsport has the best site on Earth for displaying the
vertical range of tides, but neither the town of Hantsport nor Nova Scotia'=
s
Department of Tourism has done anything to develop it as one of the wonders
of the world. Indeed, few Nova Scotians know about the Hantsport site!

Access to the MBP&P wharf in Hantsport is via William Street, which begins
opposite the Bank of Nova Scotia on Main Street. Drive straight down Willia=
m
Street all the way to the end and you will arrive on the MBP&P wharf. Be
careful on the wharf! There is no fence, only a concrete lip. At low tide a
fall would be lethal (and at high tide too, if you cannot swim).

Over the years I have taken many busloads of Americans (Elderhostel program=
)
to the Hantsport site, despite the lack of spectator protection, because it
is unique. One thing I have learned is that two visits are essential. Low
tide at Hantsport is impressive, but it is the second visit 6 hours later a=
t
high tide that elicits gasps of disbelief as the bus arrives on the wharf.

I will be giving a presentation on Fundy tides at the 2007 Nature Canada
Annual Conference in Wolfville (August 1 - 5) and will show several high/lo=
w
tide photos (but none from Burntcoat Head or Hall's Harbour).

=A0Roy


On 7-Jun-07, at 5:23 p.m., Jim Wolford wrote:

 Roy Bishop of Avonport took two famous photographs of the Hantsport Wharf
(where gypsum is loaded onto boats for export) decades ago when there was a=
n
extreme high tide (and a correspondingly very low tide too); his photos wer=
e
taken at high tide and again for contrast at low tide, and the prints can b=
e
viewed at our display on the tides at the Robie Tufts Nature Centre along
Wolfville's Front Street -- just look for the odd big chimney coming out of
a pavilion in the middle of the big parking lot by the Liquor Store. =A0

Cheers from Jim in Wolfville
----------
From: Rob Woods <rrtwoods@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 07:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Photographing high tides

Dont forget the spot with the actual highest tides at Burntcoat Head. They
also have a lighthouse and visitor centre which I think is now open.
=A0

=A0
Rob Woods
=A0
Georgefield

Ian McKay <ian@amimckay.com> wrote:
=A0

That would be Hall's Harbour...but I would also like to suggest the little
wharf at Medford, the Beach at Scots Bay or Cape Split itself.

Ian McKay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Payzant"
To: "NatureNS"=20
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: [NatureNS] Photographing high tides


> Hi, all-
>
> A friend of ours, a visiting scientist from China, wants to photograph
> some site on the Bay of Fundy at high tide and again at low tide. I have
> the BNS calendar so I can tell her when the times are and what the tidal
> range will be, but I'd like to direct her to a suitable spot.
>
> There's a famous view of a huge wharf which everyone photographs, but I
> don't know where it is. Can someone tell me how to find this place, or if
> there are any other favourite locations, where they are?
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter Payzant
>
>
>
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Thanks, Roy, for your very detailed and fascinating response! &nbsp;And ano=
ther great advertisement for that Nature Canada Conference Aug. 1-5 in Wolfv=
ille! &nbsp;Anyone interested in information on the Conference, or registrat=
ion forms, just Google &quot;nature2007&quot;. &nbsp;&nbsp;Best from Jim<BR>
----------<BR>
<B>From: </B>Roy Bishop &lt;rg@ns.sympatico.ca&gt;<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:04:16 -0300<BR>
<B>To: </B>Jim Wolford &lt;jimwolford@eastlink.ca&gt;<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>Re: [NatureNS] Photographing high tides<BR>
<BR>
Thanks Jim for copying these messages. Actually the wharf you refer to is n=
ot the gypsum wharf; it is the Minas Basin Pulp &amp; Power wharf (formerly =
the &quot;government&quot; wharf). The two photos appeared on the Blomidon N=
aturalists Calendar for the year 2000 (March page).<BR>
<BR>
I can add some information:<BR>
<BR>
The tides at Hantsport are nearly the same as at Burntcoat Head, being only=
 a foot or two less in vertical range. The problem at Burntcoat Head is that=
 when the tide is low the water is far away because of the gently sloping bo=
ttom of Minas Basin at that location. That is, the tide at Burntcoat Head go=
es &quot;out&quot; horizontally at long way, thus the vertical range of the =
tide is not apparent. At Hantsport there is a steeply sloped bottom plus two=
 large wharves (MBP&amp;P and Gypsum) that dramatically highlight the vertic=
al range and sheer &quot;volume&quot; of the tide. The wharves are much larg=
er than at Medford or Hall's Harbour. Also, the tide range at Hall's Harbour=
 is considerably less than in Minas Basin.<BR>
<BR>
The only problem at Hantsport is that no provision whatsoever has been made=
 for spectators. Hantsport has the best site on Earth for displaying the ver=
tical range of tides, but neither the town of Hantsport nor Nova Scotia's De=
partment of Tourism has done anything to develop it as one of the wonders of=
 the world. Indeed, few Nova Scotians know about the Hantsport site!<BR>
<BR>
Access to the MBP&amp;P wharf in Hantsport is via William Street, which beg=
ins opposite the Bank of Nova Scotia on Main Street. Drive straight down Wil=
liam Street all the way to the end and you will arrive on the MBP&amp;P whar=
f. Be careful on the wharf! There is no fence, only a concrete lip. At low t=
ide a fall would be lethal (and at high tide too, if you cannot swim).<BR>
<BR>
Over the years I have taken many busloads of Americans (Elderhostel program=
) to the Hantsport site, despite the lack of spectator protection, because i=
t is unique. One thing I have learned is that two visits are essential. Low =
tide at Hantsport is impressive, but it is the second visit 6 hours later at=
 high tide that elicits gasps of disbelief as the bus arrives on the wharf.<=
BR>
<BR>
I will be giving a presentation on Fundy tides at the 2007 Nature Canada An=
nual Conference in Wolfville (August 1 - 5) and will show several high/low t=
ide photos (but none from Burntcoat Head or Hall's Harbour).<BR>
<BR>
=A0Roy<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"6"><BR>
</FONT><BR>
On 7-Jun-07, at 5:23 p.m., Jim Wolford wrote:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE> Roy Bishop of Avonport took two famous photographs of the Hant=
sport Wharf (where gypsum is loaded onto boats for export) decades ago when =
there was an extreme high tide (and a correspondingly very low tide too); hi=
s photos were taken at high tide and again for contrast at low tide, and the=
 prints can be viewed at our display on the tides at the Robie Tufts Nature =
Centre along Wolfville's Front Street -- just look for the odd big chimney c=
oming out of a pavilion in the middle of the big parking lot by the Liquor S=
tore. =A0<BR>
 <BR>
 Cheers from Jim in Wolfville<BR>
 ----------<BR>
 <B>From: </B>Rob Woods &lt;rrtwoods@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>
 <B>Reply-To: </B>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>
 <B>Date: </B>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 07:46:43 -0700 (PDT)<BR>
 <B>To: </B>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>
 <B>Subject: </B>Re: [NatureNS] Photographing high tides<BR>
 <BR>
 Dont forget the spot with the actual highest tides at Burntcoat Head. They=
 also have a lighthouse and visitor centre which I think is now open.<BR>
 =A0<BR>
 <BR>
 =A0<BR>
 Rob Woods<BR>
 =A0<BR>
 Georgefield<BR>
 <BR>
 <B><I>Ian McKay &lt;ian@amimckay.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
 =A0<BR>
 <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>That would be Hall's Harbour...but I would also like to suggest=
 the little <BR>
 wharf at Medford, the Beach at Scots Bay or Cape Split itself.<BR>
 <BR>
 Ian McKay<BR>
 <BR>
 ----- Original Message ----- <BR>
 From: &quot;Peter Payzant&quot; <BR>
 To: &quot;NatureNS&quot; <BR>
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:45 AM<BR>
 Subject: [NatureNS] Photographing high tides<BR>
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 &gt; Hi, all-<BR>
 &gt;<BR>
 &gt; A friend of ours, a visiting scientist from China, wants to photograp=
h <BR>
 &gt; some site on the Bay of Fundy at high tide and again at low tide. I h=
ave <BR>
 &gt; the BNS calendar so I can tell her when the times are and what the ti=
dal <BR>
 &gt; range will be, but I'd like to direct her to a suitable spot.<BR>
 &gt;<BR>
 &gt; There's a famous view of a huge wharf which everyone photographs, but=
 I <BR>
 &gt; don't know where it is. Can someone tell me how to find this place, o=
r if <BR>
 &gt; there are any other favourite locations, where they are?<BR>
 &gt;<BR>
 &gt; Thanks<BR>
 &gt;<BR>
 &gt; Peter Payzant<BR>
 &gt;<BR>
 &gt;<BR>
 &gt;<BR>
 &gt; <BR>
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