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>To: ccn-ip-owner@chebucto.ns.ca >From: ccn-ip-owner@chebucto.ns.ca >Subject: BOUNCE ccn-ip@chebucto.ns.ca: Header line too long (>128) >Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:05:10 -0300 > >>From ccn-ip-owner@chebucto.ns.ca Fri May 15 20:05:09 1998 >Received: from acaix1.UCIS.Dal.Ca ([129.173.1.50]:4977 "EHLO >acaix1.ucis.dal.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca >with ESMTP id <39305-402>; Fri, 15 May 1998 20:04:50 -0300 >Received: from is.dal.ca (nextug@IS.Dal.Ca [129.173.1.52]) by >acaix1.ucis.dal.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA54714; Fri, 15 May 1998 >20:10:35 -0300 >Received: from localhost (nextug@localhost) by is.dal.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) >with SMTP id UAA49062; Fri, 15 May 1998 20:10:35 -0300 >Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:10:34 -0300 (ADT) >From: Christopher Majka <nextug@is.dal.ca> >To: Peter Mortimer <ag500@chebucto.ns.ca> >cc: Peter Morgan <ae112@chebucto.ns.ca>, David Trueman ><aa001@chebucto.ns.ca>, Bernie Hart <aa022@chebucto.ns.ca>, Richard >Rudnicki <ac822@chebucto.ns.ca>, > David Murdoch <murdoch@csuite.ns.ca>, ccn-ip@chebucto.ns.ca >Subject: Re: Clean Nova Scotia >In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.980515105939.6195B-100000@chebucto.ns.ca> >Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.980515195319.43830C-100000@is.dal.ca> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Return-Path: <ccn-ip-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> >X-Orcpt: rfc822;"|/csuite/etc/majordomo/wrapper resend -l ccn-ip -h >chebucto.ns.ca ccn-ip-mml" > >Hi all, > >On Fri, 15 May 1998, Peter Mortimer wrote: > >> You may have noted a post made by the volunteer committee earlier this >> week asking for "IP mentors". When the IP committee first talked about >> this role we envisioned it as *one* way that we could develop a >> relationship with IP organizations. I'm hoping to put together a small >> group of volunteers who will take this task on. > >This will certainly be a step in the right direction > >> I'm not convinced, however, that this will be enough. > >Agreed. I think that, one way or another, we need to develop the >relationship with IP organizations that you have been discussing. We have >to find a way of making IPs think of us not like a convenient PO Box where >they can park their website and then move on, but as a partner to work >with to mutual advantage. A relationship where we help them meet their >information technology needs/desires and they help us grow to help them do >that. > >As the WWW grows it is stratifying and we need make it clear that our >organization represents a content and communications driven community >based initiative. Those who want to see information technologies serve >people and community need to join forces to help make that happen so that >there are islands of content and human interaction within the great >commercial Internet sea. > >The tactics of how to achieve this - making IPs aware of the possibilities >inherent in a relationship with the CCN and the sorts of things we can >achieve together - are not easy, however, we need to find ways so that IPs >see us as more than fortuitiously cheap commercial ISPs. > >> I also think that we have to develop a better product for IP's *and* the >> infrastructure to support it. Specifically: >> >> 1. PPP access >> 2. FTP capability >> 3. virtual domains - I realize that we can provide this now (and some of >> the other items on this list) but I think we have to come up with a >> better, more efficient way to market and implement this with IP's >> 4. multi email addresses for an IP >> 5. multi majordomo lists >> 6. a browser interface to check email etc... > >1 & 2 seem to be important. We can already do 4, 5 & 6 although the >mechanims for doing so (cost, administrative & otherwise) could be better >articulated. 4 would involve a change of policy on how we assign EMail >addresses. I realize there are a number of arguements on this. Maybe we >should do another annual 'revisiting' of this idea! ;-> > >> The IP committee has talked about a number of other features, but I >> believe these are the ones seen as most valuable. > >We certainly need to try something! > >Cheers! > >Chris > >_._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. >Christopher Majka <aa051@chebucto.ns.ca> >Editor-in-Chief: Chebucto Community Net - Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada >URL = http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Home.html > >"We have ... in this country ... far too many captive editors who cannot >even be heard to rattle their chains." -- Carl E. Lindstrom >_._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. > ________________________________________________________________ Mark Rushton, Editor, Community Support & Development, Chebucto Community Network Mark@chebucto.ns.ca or via WWW: http://chebucto.ns.ca/~Mark/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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