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I agree that we had become a little careless with respect to invasiveness.
However, we have been taking steps recently to reduce this.
zmailer.conf is now installed to $CS_ROOT/etc/zmailer.conf; libintl.{h,a} are
installed into $CS_ROOT/intl/{include,lib} and the zmailer install should no
longer affect anything outside of $CS_ROOT.
The only files now affected outside of $CS_ROOT (that I can think of) are
/etc/passwd and /etc/group.
One of the reasons we encourage sites to use zmailer is because we have
made modifications to it which allow it to work with majordomo without
the need for an aditional mail aliases file with several aliases for every
list.
CSuite's mailing list related scripts assume that our version of zmailer is
being used, so this is where you should find problems if you're using
sendmail. We do plan to support sendmail at some point after 1.0.
Landon
On Sat, Apr 19, 1997 at 09:39:42PM -0300, John Nemeth wrote:
> I realise that CSuite is intended to be a do everything package,
> but in some ways it is a little too invasive in the changes it makes
> to the system. The biggest problem is installing things outside of
> $CS_ROOT (i.e. /etc/zmailer.conf,
> /usr/local/{include/libintl.h,lib/libintl.a), and replacing
> /usr/lib/sendmail). I've seen talk about zmailer.conf on the list,
> and I've already covered libintl in another note.
>
> I have a carefully tuned custom sendmail setup. I have no
> intention of running zmailer, since I've invested a fair bit of time
> in learning the ins-and-outs of sendmail, and it is one most important
> parts of the system (there are very few things that will make the
> users yell louder then mail problems). My sendmail binary was
> replaced with a link to an incompatible program without asking or
> informing me, completely messing up mail on my system (luckily it
> isn't my production system); this is not good. CSuite should be
> prepared to work with sendmail, since that is by far the most used
> MTA. As far as I can tell, it really only needs to know the location
> of the sendmail binary, the location of the aliases file, and how to
> rebuild the aliases database; however, some work may be needed for
> VCN's.
>
> CSuite should not assume it is the only thing running on a
> machine, nor should it make make invasive changes without asking the
> operator. It should inform the operator of all standard things it
> wishes to replace (i.e. httpd, ftpd, and sendmail). Even a README
> would be better then just doing it. As a space saving measure, it
> shouldn't install things which are already present and of a
> sufficiently reason version which aren't modified (i.e. gawk, perl,
> etc.). The README should list all standard services which it wishes
> to replace with modified versions and why.
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