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'Lot's of discussion about invasive species... but so far I have no report =
on the occurrence of dog-strangling vine in NS (other than the one I cited=
for the Port George area) which is what I wanted to determine.. how common=
is it here?
Also, I wondered if there is a group/gov agency which is actively keeping t=
rack of invasives in NS
'Any help on these appreciated
________________________________
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Nick Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:37 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia
Calm...i lived in southeast Kentucky
We had kudzu vine that swallowed abandoned houses...crossex roads via phon=
e lines
Scary but before we call Jesus and Mary we notice it did not enter intact w=
oodland and was restricted to about 30m from the roaside.
We do have a couple of plants that are 9f concern because they do get into =
fairly intact ecosystems. I'd put glossy buckthorn at the top of the list a=
nd then in terms of potential for harm given reports from elsewhere, I'd be=
concerned about the spread of garlic mustard.
Glossy? It's naturalized now and is part of swamps and early forest success=
ion. It's not the end of the world...its green it's a laxative for birds an=
d it fits into a red maple alder tudspuck sedge swamp with no apparent dive=
rsity or community function effects.
Fight clearcutting and our inability to get any marine protected areas for =
the eastern shore because we don't want any impingement on rockweed harvest=
or oil and gas development.
Great name!
On Sat, May 5, 2018, 1:21 PM David, <dwebster@glinx.com<mailto:dwebster@gli=
nx.com>> wrote:
Hi Dave P., Bev and all.
What an unfortunate name to be saddled with. Just this side of
'wanted dead or alive'. I wish to add to Bev's comments about the
abundance of 'invasives'.
As a general rule of thumb animals and plants eventually generate
conditions which threaten their well being/survival. And those which
prevail may do so by "invading" fresh territory which is not loaded with
diseases or parasites.
Consequently, if something is threatened the best recovery remedy may
be to move a starter kit of it elsewhere. Before lighting long distance
flame throwers think about this in general terms. What is the better
choice 1) act to preserve a flora and fauna which is free of "invasive"
species or 2) act to enable survival of species which may be endangered
?
Yt, DW. Kentville
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bev Wigney" <bkwigney@gmail.com<mailto:bkwigney@gmail.com>>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: 5/5/2018 9:35:44 AM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia
>Bad news if Dog-strangling vine (DSV) is here as it is quite a scourge
>in eastern Ontario. Everyone struggles to keep it out of their gardens
>and it grows rampant on vacant properties or even in woodlands. I was
>in Ontario all last summer and went for walks in several places around
>Ottawa and found it growing profusely everywhere. Fred Schueler may
>comment on the prevalence there and perhaps here as well. Another up
>and comer I saw there spreading out from what might have been its
>Ground Zero in an abandoned industrial park was Tartarian Maple.
>*sigh*
>
>As for invasive plants, I haven't found that there is much concern
>over them here in NS although maybe there is a department that records
>such things. I did try to find out about this a few years ago after
>taking note of an incredible acreage which was just covered with a
>non-native vine -- Wisteria sinensis. I made mention of it here on
>NatureNS at the time (summer 2013). It grows rampantly all over the
>woods at this property, but also along the roadside and actually up
>over the powerlines - smothering everything in its path. I've seen it
>spreading out from there, but it seems that is not considered
>problematic. At the time, I did some readng up on it and discovered
>that just about everywhere, it is considered a serious invasive.
>Reminds me of the Japanese Knotweed around here -- growing along Route
>201 and in vacant land in Annapolis Royal. When I first moved here, a
>neighbour offered to give me some roots of his "bamboo". He used to
>chop it down and toss it into a ravine on his own property and now
>it's growing down there. I see a lot of it around Bridgetown next to
>the river too. It seems to be everywhere. However, I don't think
>there is much concern. The truth is, here around Annapolis Royal, if
>all of the particularly invasive, non-native plants (multiflora roses,
>goutweed, tansy, knotweed, phragmites, wisteria, etc..) ever
>disappeared overnight, their absence would leave something of a
>wasteland. I suspect European and Asiatic plants probably outnumber
>natives by about 2 to 1. I've found that to be the case with snails
>and slugs and to some extent with insects as well, by the way. No
>doubt, many of these plants came with the settlers and seem to have
>done quite well over the centuries. Definitely has an impact on the
>ecology of the area -- less native plant hosts for our native insects
>-- and so on.
>
>Bev Wigney
>Round Hill
>
>On 5/5/18, David Patriquin <David.Patriquin@dal.ca<mailto:David.Patriquin@=
dal.ca>> wrote:
>>Some discussion about Dog-strangling vine (Cynanchum rossicum &
>>Cynanchum
>>louiseae) came up in a discussion forum on Woods and Waters Nova
>>Scotia; I
>>had not heard of it before in NS and cannot find it in any lists of
>>invasive
>>plants for NS.
>>
>>
>>From the discussion forum, from a resident in the Port George area:
>>
>>"...can see out my window where it starts . my next door neighbours
>>bush is
>>blanketed . from the tops of his mature spruce to the ground....the
>>vines
>>next door , that=92s where it starts , then it went through our
>>blackberry
>>field and mostly killed it . now it=92s in our woods
>>
>>
>>So I am wondering how common it is now in NS - I would appreciate any
>>comments, observations from NatureNS folks
>>
>>
>>Another question - is there a group or gov agency in NS that is
>>actively
>>keeping track of invasive plants?
>>
>>
>>At http://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/ its distribution is cited as "
>>in
>>parts of Ontario, southern Quebec and several American states"
>>
>>
>>Short description
>>
>>Dog-strangling vine is found in parts of Ontario, southern Quebec and
>>several American states. This plant grows aggressively by wrapping
>>itself
>>around tress and other plants, and can grow up to two metres high.
>>This
>>forms dense stands that overwhelm and crowd out native plants and
>>young
>>trees, preventing forest regeneration. The plant produces bean-shaped
>>seed
>>pods for to seven centimetres long and pink to dark purple star-shaped
>>flowers
>>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">'Lot's of discussion about invasi=
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ng vine in NS (other than the one I cited for the Port George area) w=
hich is what I wanted to determine.. how
common is it here?</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Also, I wondered if there is=
a group/gov agency which is actively keeping track of invasives in NS</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">'Any help on these appreciated</p=
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to.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on behalf of Nick Hill <f=
ernhillns@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia</f=
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<div dir=3D"auto">Calm...i lived in southeast Kentucky
<div dir=3D"auto">We had kudzu vine that swallowed abandoned houses..=
.crossex roads via phone lines</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Scary but before we call Jesus and Mary we notice it did =
not enter intact woodland and was restricted to about 30m from the roaside.=
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">We do have a couple of plants that are 9f concern because=
they do get into fairly intact ecosystems. I'd put glossy buckthorn at the=
top of the list and then in terms of potential for harm given reports from=
elsewhere, I'd be concerned about
the spread of garlic mustard.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Glossy? It's naturalized now and is part of swamps and ea=
rly forest succession. It's not the end of the world...its green it's a lax=
ative for birds and it fits into a red maple alder tudspuck sedge swamp wit=
h no apparent diversity or community
function effects.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Fight clearcutting and our inability to get any marine pr=
otected areas for the eastern shore because we don't want any impingement o=
n rockweed harvest or oil and gas development.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Great name!</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, May 5, 2018, 1:21 PM David, <<a href=3D"mailto:=
dwebster@glinx.com" id=3D"LPlnk603761" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" previewremoved=
=3D"true">dwebster@glinx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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:1px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex">
Hi Dave P., Bev and all.<br>
What an unfortunate name to be saddled with. Just this =
side of <br>
'wanted dead or alive'. I wish to add to Bev's comments about the <br>
abundance of 'invasives'.<br>
As a general rule of thumb animals and plants eventuall=
y generate <br>
conditions which threaten their well being/survival. And those which <br>
prevail may do so by "invading" fresh territory which is not load=
ed with <br>
diseases or parasites.<br>
Consequently, if something is threatened the best recovery re=
medy may <br>
be to move a starter kit of it elsewhere. Before lighting long distance <br=
>
flame throwers think about this in general terms. What is the better <br>
choice 1) act to preserve a flora and fauna which is free of "invasive=
" <br>
species or 2) act to enable survival of species which may be endangered <br=
>
?<br>
Yt, DW. Kentville<br>
<br>
------ Original Message ------<br>
From: "Bev Wigney" <<a href=3D"mailto:bkwigney@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" id=3D"LPlnk680117" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" p=
reviewremoved=3D"true">bkwigney@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" id=3D"LPlnk65403" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" previewremoved=3D"true">
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>
Sent: 5/5/2018 9:35:44 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia<br>
<br>
>Bad news if Dog-strangling vine (DSV) is here as it is quite a scourge<=
br>
>in eastern Ontario. Everyone struggles to keep it out of their gardens<=
br>
>and it grows rampant on vacant properties or even in woodlands. I=
was<br>
>in Ontario all last summer and went for walks in several places around<=
br>
>Ottawa and found it growing profusely everywhere. Fred Schu=
eler may<br>
>comment on the prevalence there and perhaps here as well. Another=
up<br>
>and comer I saw there spreading out from what might have been its<br>
>Ground Zero in an abandoned industrial park was Tartarian Maple.<br>
>*sigh*<br>
><br>
>As for invasive plants, I haven't found that there is much concern<br>
>over them here in NS although maybe there is a department that records<=
br>
>such things. I did try to find out about this a few years ago aft=
er<br>
>taking note of an incredible acreage which was just covered with a<br>
>non-native vine -- Wisteria sinensis. I made mention of it here o=
n<br>
>NatureNS at the time (summer 2013). It grows rampantly all over t=
he<br>
>woods at this property, but also along the roadside and actually up<br>
>over the powerlines - smothering everything in its path. I've see=
n it<br>
>spreading out from there, but it seems that is not considered<br>
>problematic. At the time, I did some readng up on it and discover=
ed<br>
>that just about everywhere, it is considered a serious invasive.<br>
>Reminds me of the Japanese Knotweed around here -- growing along Route<=
br>
>201 and in vacant land in Annapolis Royal. When I first moved her=
e, a<br>
>neighbour offered to give me some roots of his "bamboo". =
; He used to<br>
>chop it down and toss it into a ravine on his own property and now<br>
>it's growing down there. I see a lot of it around Bridgetown next=
to<br>
>the river too. It seems to be everywhere. However, I =
don't think<br>
>there is much concern. The truth is, here around Annapolis Royal,=
if<br>
>all of the particularly invasive, non-native plants (multiflora roses,<=
br>
>goutweed, tansy, knotweed, phragmites, wisteria, etc..) ever<br>
>disappeared overnight, their absence would leave something of a<br>
>wasteland. I suspect European and Asiatic plants probably outnumb=
er<br>
>natives by about 2 to 1. I've found that to be the case with snai=
ls<br>
>and slugs and to some extent with insects as well, by the way.&nb=
sp; No<br>
>doubt, many of these plants came with the settlers and seem to have<br>
>done quite well over the centuries. Definitely has an impact on the<br>
>ecology of the area -- less native plant hosts for our native insects<b=
r>
>-- and so on.<br>
><br>
>Bev Wigney<br>
>Round Hill<br>
><br>
>On 5/5/18, David Patriquin <<a href=3D"mailto:David.Patriquin@dal.ca=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" id=3D"LPlnk540113" class=3D"OWAAutoL=
ink" previewremoved=3D"true">David.Patriquin@dal.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>>Some discussion about Dog-strangling vine (Cynanchum rossicum &=
<br>
>>Cynanchum<br>
>>louiseae) came up in a discussion forum on Woods and Waters Nova <b=
r>
>>Scotia; I<br>
>>had not heard of it before in NS and cannot find it in any lists of=
<br>
>>invasive<br>
>>plants for NS.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>From the discussion forum, from a resident in the Port George area:=
<br>
>><br>
>>"...can see out my window where it starts . my next door neigh=
bours <br>
>>bush is<br>
>>blanketed . from the tops of his mature spruce to the ground....the=
<br>
>>vines<br>
>>next door , that=92s where it starts , then it went through our <br=
>
>>blackberry<br>
>>field and mostly killed it . now it=92s in our woods<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>So I am wondering how common it is now in NS - I would appreciate a=
ny<br>
>>comments, observations from NatureNS folks<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Another question - is there a group or gov agency in NS that is <br=
>
>>actively<br>
>>keeping track of invasive plants?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>At <a href=3D"http://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/" rel=3D"noreferr=
er noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" id=3D"LPlnk70617" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" pr=
eviewremoved=3D"true">
http://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/</a> its distribution is cited as "=
; <br>
>>in<br>
>>parts of Ontario, southern Quebec and several American states"=
<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Short description<br>
>><br>
>>Dog-strangling vine is found in parts of Ontario, southern Quebec a=
nd<br>
>>several American states. This plant grows aggressively by wrapping =
<br>
>>itself<br>
>>around tress and other plants, and can grow up to two metres high. =
<br>
>>This<br>
>>forms dense stands that overwhelm and crowd out native plants and <=
br>
>>young<br>
>>trees, preventing forest regeneration. The plant produces bean-shap=
ed <br>
>>seed<br>
>>pods for to seven centimetres long and pink to dark purple star-sha=
ped<br>
>>flowers<br>
>><br>
<br>
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