Re[2]: [NatureNS] The Forest Funeral

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Hello all,

Isn't the problem with clear-cutting, not with clear-cutting per se but
with the rate and extent of it:  currently close to 90% of the total
harvest on Crown Land in Nova Scotia, according to several reports by
forest ecologists?  I also  hear that the re-growth of hardwoods is being
discouraged by the use of herbicides, except in the demonstration and
experimental forests of the Otter Ponds and the Medway Community Forest
Cooperative, where they promote the growth of the Acadian Forest - and, of
course, on many privately owned wood lots.

I agree with Dave that there are many other threats to our forest where it
is simply cut down, never to be replaced, to make way for highways and
housing, also service roads such as John Kearney pointed out a few months
ago on this forum, those cut through the forest to install and maintain
wind turbines!!

As far as forests not growing back, the questions of sustainability and
potential soil depletion have to be addressed, given the years of
clear-cutting, trampling of the soil by large machines working all year
long, continued acid rain and now climate change - and probably many other
things that I, not a trained scientist, don't know about.  There are
reports suggesting the soil, at least in SWNS, cannot sustain the present
rate of harvesting.

Nancy

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 1:46 PM, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>     It is interesting that this mock funeral will increase highway traffic
> (briefly) because the expansion of highways, especially of the 101 series,
> has destroyed a huge chunk of potential forest land and taken a much larger
> bite out of small animal habitat/population. Even a 10" high gravel ridge
> is a barrier to snake travel and the huge cuts and fills associated with
> the 101 series has fragmented Reptile and Amphibian habitat much as a
> sledge hammer can fragment a fragile glass container.
>    The idea that Moose need mature forest is not sound. I have never
> hunted Moose but have several times hunted Deer in upland country where
> Moose were also present. Moose sign were consistently very sparse in mature
> woodland (as in got to get through this wasteland) and abundant in nearby
> clearcut regrowth. In recent times Moose reached the coast in BC. Mature
> forest had acted as a barrier to travel and logging generated the food
> friendly means to travel from inland areas to the coast.
>     It has been my experience that woodland, flattened by clearcut or
> Spruce Budworm, becomes very good wildlife habitat within 10 years and
> sometimes 1-2 if hardwoods are involved.  Has this changed ? Are recent
> clearcuts not growing back ?
> YT, DW Kentville
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Donna Crossland" <dcrossland@eastlink.ca>
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: 10/15/2017 12:25:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] The Forest Funeral
>
> Thanks, Paul for reminding everyone-
>
> The Forest Funeral is a ceremony to both celebrate the life of the Acadian
> Forest, and also to mourn its great losses in Nova Scotia, particularly in
> recent years.
>
> *Old Man Luedecke *is going to sing *"Sad as a Forest*", a marvelous
> song.  Lee Keating, an early logger, woodsman, and guide is driving all the
> way from Clyde River to sing his song about forest progress (pointing to
> the great progress to the feller buncher over the axe...).  We have an
> array of amazing people who will say a few words in ode to our great
> Acadian forest.  Soren Bondrup-Nielsen will offer a lament to forest
> wildlife; those species that suffer when forests are clearcut, removing
> critical food sources and shelter along with the wood (which is mostly
> going for chips from 40-50 year old stands).  Bob Bancroft is going to
> deliver a gripping Eulogy.  I hear there will be moose, fisher, marten, and
> forest birds in attendance.  Where have you ever attended a funeral with
> those present?   It only makes sense to pay respects to these species,
> since the critical loss of mature forests have caused the demise of these
> and other wildlife species.
>
> It's quite  legacy we are leaving to our children.
>
> People drive for hours to attend funerals of loved ones.  Do we "love" our
> forests and wildlife, or not?
>
> Donna Crossland (Funeral to take place at ~ 1 PM at Province House.)
>
> On 2017-10-15 11:28 AM, rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Hi All
> Thursday the 19th is the day for the Funeral of Nova Scotia Forests.
> Some fellows had booked me for the day to view some NS rivers so
> as I can't 2 places at once I need send my regrets. Difficult enough
> doing something useful in one place!
> The Global warming, CO2 thing has far reaching effects. Some folks are even
> making plans to move to Mars if we don't stop using fossil fuels. But
> Biomass, wood
> and so on are not counted against the CO2 immersions - count as
> renewables. which
> they are but they may take a while to renew. In the meantime our woods get
> chopped
> to the ground. Even the Lord Mayor of London England is taking action. He
> doesn't
> like the smoke but he has a more scientific term for it. Strange
> bedfellows - the protestors
> in Halifax and the Lord Mayor!
> Anyway I hope those of you who are so inclined will take the opportunity
> to express your feelings.
> Have a nice fall
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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