[NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles

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I've just been asked, "What is TNR?" Sorry for the undefined term.

TNR stands for "Trap, Neuter, Release (or Return)". This is a program that
catches feral cats, sterilizes them (and often gives them vaccinations for
some diseases) and releases them into colonies. The false idea being that
over time, the colonies will get smaller and smaller because individuals
can't reproduce. This is a myth, since (a) it is rare to catch all the
cats, and reproduction therefore occurs (our local group admits its failure
by offering kittens from these colonies for adoption) and (b) the colonies
act as a dumping ground for others' unwanted cats...the dumpers know the
colony cats will be fed.

The cats are still a problem.

For those who don't seem to care about the negative repercussions of
free-roaming cats...how many unnecessary dead birds, moles, voles, snakes,
weasels, young rabbits....would it take for you to say, "Now there is a
problem." How many?

Remember that for every vole, sparrow, robin, snake...a free-roaming cat
unnecessarily kills, that's one less  vole, sparrow, robin, snake available
as food to our own raptors, foxes, bobcats and more.

Randy

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RF Lauff
Way in the boonies of
Antigonish County, NS.

On 25 January 2016 at 09:12, Angus MacLean <cold_mac@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Wholeheartedly agree.
> Angus
>
> ------------------------------
> From: darrell@abolitphotos.ca
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: [NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 03:26:05 +0000
>
>
> For some reason, cats will kill star-nosed moles and plenty of them but
> they won't eat them. I wonder why, there must be a reason, maybe a scent
> gland.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure why people think that keeping cats in at night will cure the
> problem, maybe lessen it by 1/4. The true cure is to not allow housecats =
to
> roam free, (same law as for dogs) they must be in a pen, leash or under
> control, the same as any other pet. This will near totally cure the probl=
em.
>
>
>
> Coyotes love the taste of cats, our DNR found 3 cat collars in one coyote
> stomach. I think that if people really do love their cats, they would
> contain them so not to get run over or ate. I don't believe people think
> about them be eaten though.
>
>
>
> Housecats are a problem in the rural areas, the same as they are anywhere
> else. A roaming cat kills no matter where it resides.  I know of two
> different houses that have about 15 cats each, lovely, just xxxxxxx lovel=
y.
> The best way to get rid of mice is to trap them, rats too. Cats will not
> tacke full grown rats, seen them run from them, baby rats maybe. Educatio=
n
> and law is what is needed. It seems there is some sort of left over scare
> from the black plague to allow cats to roam and kill at will. Be known th=
at
> the cats just spread the plague further by hosting fleas.
>
>
>
> It is past time to make it law to contain your pets, all pets, no
> exceptions. Only then will this problem be solved and not until.
>
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> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 17:27:59 -0400, David Currie <
> david_currie@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> We sometimes get caught up with the estimated numbers quoted from EC or
> others as being totally accurate for some reason, though always expressed
> in an estimate or within a certain range. I don=E2=80=99t have to tell th=
is group
> that science is based on fact with those facts extrapolated to give us so=
me
> idea. Cod numbers, seal numbers, feral cat numbers etc. to make a
> comparison.  Is the number of birds really that important other than it=
=E2=80=99 a
> lot and getting worse as free-roaming  cats increase? Don=E2=80=99t we th=
ink that
> if we lose 350 million or 100 or 70 million land birds/small animals to
> cats in Canada a year, it=E2=80=99s too many when we can avoid it? Do we =
always
> have to complain about collisions, habitat destruction etc. to lessen the
> guilt we have about our pet cat?
>
> This is a human issue of attitude and it is important that we become more
> responsible for our cats as we have with dogs. Cats are doing what they a=
re
> built to hunt extremely effectively and we are contributing to aiding an
> invasive species that has a direct impact on our natural wildlife.
> Relegating our pet cats to the house doesn=E2=80=99t mean a life in the c=
loset, and
> from what I understand from my friends, it develops a better =E2=80=9Cpet
> experience=E2=80=9D where they are not killed, shot at, poisoned, scarred=
 or lost.
> On the wildlife side, we humans need to take some responsibility here and
> quit hiding behind the , my cat is =E2=80=9Ctoo old=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cto=
o fat=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cdoesn=E2=80=99t climb
> trees=E2=80=9D, is a =E2=80=9Cbush cat=E2=80=9D, (I=E2=80=99ve heard that=
 one) and =E2=80=9Cnever brings anything
> home=E2=80=9D attitude that relieves them of the guilt they have.
>
> If we talk to the trap and neuter people, which I have, they are
> experiencing a huge growth of unwanted cats in NS, there are no resources
> to deal with it and a public attitude that pretty much encourages dumping
> them. Burnside Park in Dartmouth, the TN people say, has 1000 feral cats =
at
> a minimum as the SPCA (located there) has no room so the people open the
> car door and abandon them right there. They told me you could set a trap
> anywhere there and catch animals daily.
>
> I suppose some roaming cats may very well develop a taste for rodents, an=
d
> I guess selective enough to not include, chipmunks, young hare, meadow
> voles, Star-nosed Moles, amphibians or birds given the opportunity but we
> humans seem to believe that cats, in order to enjoy their lives, need to =
be
> outdoors. I am encouraged to see Vancouver take a stand.
>
> ps...can someone tell me why keeping cats inside at night is an answer to
> the problem or is that point so the cat doesn=E2=80=99t get hurt as easil=
y?
>
> David Currie
>
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