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a debate on the issue...twice. They haven&#39;t so muc --_130a9926-c7d0-40ba-a320-ad0744f41573_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wholeheartedly agree. Angus From: darrell@abolitphotos.ca To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: [NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles Date: Mon=2C 25 Jan 2016 03:26:05 +0000 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= For some reason=2C cats will kill star-nosed=0A= moles and plenty of them but they won't eat them. I wonder why=2C there mus= t be=0A= a reason=2C maybe a scent gland.=0A= =0A= I'm not sure why people think that keeping=0A= cats in at night will cure the problem=2C maybe lessen it by 1/4. The true = cure is=0A= to not allow housecats to roam free=2C (same law as for dogs) they must be = in a=0A= pen=2C leash or under control=2C the same as any other pet. This will near = totally=0A= cure the problem.=0A= =0A= Coyotes love the taste of cats=2C our DNR=0A= found 3 cat collars in one coyote stomach. I think that if people really do= love=0A= their cats=2C they would contain them so not to get run over or ate. I don'= t=0A= believe people think about them be eaten though.=0A= =0A= Housecats are a problem in the rural=0A= areas=2C the same as they are anywhere else. A roaming cat kills no matter = where=0A= it resides. I know of two different houses that have about 15 cats each=2C= =0A= lovely=2C just xxxxxxx lovely. The best way to get rid of mice is to trap t= hem=2C=0A= rats too. Cats will not tacke full grown rats=2C seen them run from them=2C= baby=0A= rats maybe. Education and law is what is needed. It seems there is some sor= t of=0A= left over scare from the black plague to allow cats to roam and kill at wil= l. =0A= Be known that the cats just spread the plague further by hosting fleas.=0A= =0A= It is past time to make it law to contain=0A= your pets=2C all pets=2C no exceptions. Only then will this problem be solv= ed and=0A= not until.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D On=0A= Sun=2C 24 Jan 2016 17:27:59 -0400=2C David Currie=0A= <david_currie@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Hi All=0A= =0A= We sometimes get caught up with the estimated numbers quoted from EC or=0A= others as being totally accurate for some reason=2C though always expressed= in an=0A= estimate or within a certain range. I don=92t have to tell this group that= =0A= science is based on fact with those facts extrapolated to give us some idea= . Cod=0A= numbers=2C seal numbers=2C feral cat numbers etc. to make a comparison. Is= the=0A= number of birds really that important other than it=92 a lot and getting wo= rse=0A= as free-roaming cats increase? Don=92t we think that if we lose 350 millio= n or=0A= 100 or 70 million land birds/small animals to cats in Canada a year=2C it= =92s too=0A= many when we can avoid it? Do we always have to complain about collisions= =2C=0A= habitat destruction etc. to lessen the guilt we have about our pet cat?=0A= =0A= This is a human issue of attitude and it is important that we become more= =0A= responsible for our cats as we have with dogs. Cats are doing what they are= =0A= built to hunt extremely effectively and we are contributing to aiding an=0A= invasive species that has a direct impact on our natural wildlife. Relegat= ing=0A= our pet cats to the house doesn=92t mean a life in the closet=2C and from w= hat I=0A= understand from my friends=2C it develops a better =93pet experience=94 whe= re they=0A= are not killed=2C shot at=2C poisoned=2C scarred or lost. On the wildlife s= ide=2C we=0A= humans need to take some responsibility here and quit hiding behind the =2C= my cat=0A= is =93too old=94=2C =93too fat=94=2C =93doesn=92t climb trees=94=2C is a = =93bush=0A= cat=94=2C (I=92ve heard that one) and =93never brings anything home=94 atti= tude=0A= that relieves them of the guilt they have.=0A= =0A= If we talk to the trap and neuter people=2C which I have=2C they are=0A= experiencing a huge growth of unwanted cats in NS=2C there are no resources= to=0A= deal with it and a public attitude that pretty much encourages dumping them= . =0A= Burnside Park in Dartmouth=2C the TN people say=2C has 1000 feral cats at a= minimum=0A= as the SPCA (located there) has no room so the people open the car door and= =0A= abandon them right there. They told me you could set a trap anywhere there = and=0A= catch animals daily.=0A= =0A= I suppose some roaming cats may very well develop a taste for rodents=2C an= d=0A= I guess selective enough to not include=2C chipmunks=2C young hare=2C meado= w voles=2C=0A= Star-nosed Moles=2C amphibians or birds given the opportunity but we humans= seem=0A= to believe that cats=2C in order to enjoy their lives=2C need to be outdoor= s. I am=0A= encouraged to see Vancouver take a stand.=0A= =0A= ps...can someone tell me why keeping cats inside at night is an answer to= =0A= the problem or is that point so the cat doesn=92t get hurt as easily? =0A= =0A= David Currie=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= = --_130a9926-c7d0-40ba-a320-ad0744f41573_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 12pt=3B font-family:Calibri } --></style></head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Wholeheartedly agree.<br>Angus<b= r><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: darrell@abolitphotos.ca<br>To: nat= urens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>Subject: [NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles<br>Date: M= on=2C 25 Jan 2016 03:26:05 +0000<br><br>=0A= =0A= =0A= <style><!--=0A= .ExternalClass p {=0A= padding:0=3B=0A= }=0A= --></style>=0A= <p style=3D"padding:0px=3B">For some reason=2C cats will kill star-nosed=0A= moles and plenty of them =3Bbut they =3Bwon't eat them. I wonder wh= y=2C there must be=0A= a reason=2C maybe a scent gland.</p>=0A= <p style=3D"padding:0px=3B"> =3B</p>=0A= <p style=3D"padding:0px=3B">I'm not sure why people think that keeping=0A= cats in at night will cure the problem=2C maybe lessen it by 1/4. The true = cure is=0A= to not allow housecats to roam free=2C (same law as for dogs) =3Bthey m= ust be in a=0A= pen=2C leash or under control=2C =3Bthe same as any other pet. This wil= l near totally=0A= cure the problem.</p>=0A= <p style=3D"padding:0px=3B"> =3B</p>=0A= <p style=3D"padding:0px=3B">Coyotes love the taste of cats=2C our DNR=0A= found 3 cat collars in one coyote stomach. I think that if people really do= love=0A= their cats=2C they would contain them so not to get run over or ate. I don'= t=0A= believe =3Bpeople think about them be eaten though.</p>=0