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Lep. --_f6f9a48e-3c86-4914-ba77-615a9b13ba72_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not threatened or endangered yet=2C but a painted turtle was crossing the F= isherman's Memorial Highway just outside of Hammond's Plains when I was com= ing home last night. I missed it as did the car behind me=2C but as to its= fate after that who knows. =20 =20 James R. Hirtle Bridgewater=20 =20 From: dwebster@glinx.com To: GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca=3B HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca=3B NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: [NatureNS] Wood Turtle: long Date: Mon=2C 30 Jun 2014 19:13:41 -0300 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Hi John=2C Andrew & All=2C =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= I noticed on a post to naturens recently that (from the =0A= NS Museum of NH site)--=0A= "It may seem harmless to keep a turtle as a pet for a while=2C but this is = =0A= not a good idea. Two of the province's four turtle species are already at r= isk =0A= in Nova Scotia. It is likely that removal of turtles by people is part of t= he =0A= reason=2C for Wood Turtles."=0A= =0A= I expect this supposition rests in part on your 1984 =0A= statement (Amphibians and Reptiles of Nova Scotia p. 148) =0A= that--=0A= "Another problem facing the Wood Turtle is the removal of many individuals = =0A= from their habitat by people while on fishing trips or camping trips" which= are =0A= then subsequently "released in the woods many kilometers from its natural = =0A= habitat."=0A= =0A= Perhaps you can provide some details of the observations =0A= on which your above statement was based. =0A= =0A= To get a third viewpoint for comparison I went =0A= to Wood Turtle on Wikipedia and with some personal satisfaction note that m= uch =0A= of their text=2C re Wood Turtles range wide=2C might have been written by m= e re =0A= turtles and amphibians in NS=3B e.g. emphasis on habitat loss=2C traffic = =0A= fatalities=2C a plug for culvert underpasses and the observation that an = =0A= overabundant Raccoon threatens WTs at all life stages. They quite rightly l= ist =0A= commercial collections made for the international pet trade as a genuine th= reat. =0A= They note without commentary that "Brochures =0A= and other media that warn people to avoid keeping the wood turtle as a pet = are =0A= currently being distributed."=3B a variant of damming by faint =0A= praise.=0A= =0A= With respect to culvert underpasses I paste the following--=0A= START =0A= OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\=0A= Hi =0A= Lisa & =0A= All=2C July 31=2C =0A= 2008 I dare say you are already moving in this direction=2C =0A= but a small=20 animal underpass=2C suitably located (e.g. where you were =0A= escorting=20 toadlets in this instance) would be less labour-intensive and =0A= consequently more practicable in the long run. Why =0A= Conservation organizations have not lobbied for and made public=20 noises about =0A= small animal crossings beats me. Perhaps I have not been=20 paying attention =0A= but I have noticed that some have been installed in the=20 UK. Even modest =0A= highways with light traffic can be effective barriers to=20 movement of =0A= Reptiles and Amphibians=2C either by preventing access to the=20 roadway or by =0A= killing some that do make it. Based on road kills =0A= observed while walking=2C I think snakes must sun=20 on gravel roads where they =0A= blend in nicely before and after being=20 flattened. And a 20-cm high ridge of =0A= gravel=2C thrown up by a road grader=2C=20 can stop a 30-cm snake from crossing. =0A= And a highway sand cut=2C at angle=20 of repose after about 25 years=2C acts as a =0A= solid wall to a toad (in dry=20 weather=3B wet might be different). Yours =0A= truly=2C Dave Webster=2C Kentville =0A= =0A= END =0A= OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\=0A= And =0A= just one more example--=0A= START =0A= OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\=0A= Hi =0A= Flora & All=2C Apr 3=2C =0A= 2006 Traffic on our highways is unfortunately a very =0A= effective way to kill small animals=3B invertebrate & vertebrate. I dug out= =0A= two responses to this spring rush (pasted below) and am struck by the agree= ment =0A= in timing. As noted in my post of Sept 17=2C 2005=2C underpasses can be ver= y =0A= effective at least for snakes. Thanks for the opportunity =0A= to flog a pet idea. DW Flora Cordis Johnson wrote: =0A= =0A= =0A= Last night's rain=2C though undoubtedly =0A= needed=2C brought the first amphibian roadkills of spring to my neck of t= he =0A= woods=2C and a lot of them. In a 3/4 mile stretch of road that runs throu= gh a =0A= wetland east of my house on Cloverdale Road=2C near Middle Stewiacke=2C I= counted =0A= three dead spring peepers=2C ranging in size from about a half inch to ab= out an =0A= inch in length=2C and a large (about 2 inch) dark-charcoal coloured salam= ander =0A= with faint blue markings on its sides. In addition there were several =0A= unidentifiable splats -- which=2C judging from size and weather=2C were m= ost =0A= likely ex-frogs. I brought the salamander home in a dead leaf and photogr= aphed =0A= it.=0A= A sad Wild Flora in Birch =0A= Hill=0A= =0A= START OF PASTES\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Hi Anne & =0A= All=2C =0A= Mar 31=2C 2002 I recall hearing some years ago that toad (or =0A= frog ?) underpasses had been installed on some British highways=2C really =0A= culverts at ditch level=2C and had substantially reduced road =0A= kills. I wonder if these salamanders would preferentially =0A= use a culvert if it were available and how large it would need to be =0A= ? Dave Webster=2C =0A= Kentville \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Hi James & =0A= All=2C Mar 31=2C =0A= 2005 A lot of amphibians and reptiles don't get to the =0A= other side when=20 they attempt to cross a road. I =0A= continue to wonder why Naturalist organizations don't pressure=20 more for safe =0A= R&A underpass crossings. Is this a design problem or a=20 motivation =0A= problem ? Yours truly=2C Dave Webster=2C Kentville END OF PASTES=3B =0A= really \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\=0A= =0A= =0A= I don't like putting you and Andrew on the spot but =0A= remember "Iron sharpeneth iron"=2C Prov. 27:17=2C I don't think the number= s =0A= add up and in my view=2C backed by Wikipedia as it happens (noted above)=2C= there =0A= are greater environmental problems that collectively shrink the odd turtle = =0A= picked up on a fishing or camping trip to a value that is indistinguishable= from =0A= zero. =0A= =0A= According to Wikipedia=2C Wood Turtles live to 40 years in =0A= the wild (58 in captivity)=2C become sexually mature at ages 14-18 and lay = 3-20 =0A= eggs per year. For simple mental arithmetic one can round this to 20 egg-la= ying =0A= years and 10 eggs per year for a total of 200 eggs per female. So attrition= must =0A= be severe to maintain a stable population and the range in egg =0A= production implies a control mechanism to a