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<DIV st ---1663062914-1587589204-1399472145=:15104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Dave as to hairless sheep.=0AIt was a good project - the CDA hired lot= s of folks with lots of initials after their name - and of the correct poli= tical views. I imagion most are still drawing govt pensions as we speak. Ne= edless to say they didn't want me. anyway the project had other objects and= they had some success - the wool fell out of the sheep in the spring so sh= earing was unnecessary - some of the wool anyway.=0AUnfortunately other mor= e essential pieces fell of as well with the result the hairless sheep ended= up in Irish stew.=0ALuckly some sheep farmers found out how to produce bet= ter ewes with the result that the Govt sheep came a distant second in the e= yes of most sheep men.=0AHave a nice spring=0APaul=0AOn Tuesday, May 6, 201= 4 9:36:48 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:=0A =0AHi = Mary & =0AAll,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AMay 6, 2014 =0A=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 With regard to the effects on Arthropods of wearing =0APerm= ethrin treating clothing when in the woods it seems clear to me that, even = =0Aif widely used,=C2=A0the effect would be vanishingly small because (if I= =0Aunderstand this correctly) exposure must be by direct contact with the = clothing, =0Aexposure will be transient and the area of exposure will be li= mited (a huge area =0Aof=C2=A0cloth is not left hanging in one place). =0A= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The direct effect of motor vehicle traffic on flying =0A= insects would probably be at least one million times as great. =0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 A few years ago it typically took 2 decades for someone =0Ato = get a clear grasp of even a narrow field of study so there was time for =0A= reflection. The internet now furnishes rapid access to vast amounts of =0Ai= nformation=C2=A0and exposure to=C2=A0countless instant experts. So one shou= ld =0Awelcome verifiable raw information and be wary of perhaps faulty idea= s. =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Gulliver's travels in Laputa is a good place to s= tart. =0AWhatever happened to that project to breed hairless sheep ? =0AYt,= Dave Webster, Kentville =0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: Mary = Macaulay =0A>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 = 8:41 PM =0A>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - the Permethrin Option =0A>= =0A> =0A>I hope people will consider very carefully before applying such p= esticides as bug b gon and others to their lawns and gardens. Google them = and check their toxicity to pollinators and other beneficial insects. Sure= ly at least those on this nature living list can be leaders, communicators= and advocates for dealing with the less than 2% of insects considered pes= ts in other ways rather than these incredibly poisonous treatments.=C2=A0 = =0A>As for ticks. Tuck your pant legs in your socks, wear bug jackets and = gloves etc. Washing pesticide soaked clothing introduces these chemicals i= nto our water.=C2=A0=0A>Pyrethroids have been found to be unaffected by se= condary treatment systems at municipal wastewater treatment facilities. Th= ey appear in the effluent, usually at levels lethal to invertebrates. =0A>= =0A>With kindest regards =0A>Mary (Macaulay) =0A>marymacaulay@hotmail.com = =0A>@maryemacaulay =0A>=0A>On May 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, =0A "Dave&Jane Schl= osberg" <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:=0A>=0A> =0A>"Bug B Gon"--widel= y available hereabouts. =C2=A0It has pyrethrin.=0A>>=0A>>-----Original Mes= sage----- =0A>>From: Phil Schappert=0A>>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:04 PM= =0A>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=0A>>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - t= he Permethrin Option=0A>>=0A>>At 6:49 PM -0300 5/5/14, Dave&Jane Schlosbe= rg wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Permethrin is the chemical form of pyrethrin, which com= es from =0A>>> =0A>>chrysanthemums. =C2=A0=C2=A0Pyrethrin is available in = many insecticides sold in =0A>>> =0A>>garden stores. =C2=A0It is said to ir= ritate skin, but we sprayed it on the =0A>>> =0A>>bottoms of pants and shi= rt cuffs. =C2=A0We haven=E2=A4=81t had any ticks (yet!) on us. =0A>>> =0A>= >Or skin irritation.=0A>>>=0A>>A minor correction, Jane, permethrin is th= e=0A>>man-made analog of pyrethrin and permethrin is=0A>>available in far = more insecticides than pyrethrin=0A>>(because permethrin has a longer she= lf-life, a=0A>>longer active period and is cheaper to include in=0A>>insec= ticide formulation).=0A>>=0A>>Phil=0A>>=0A>>-- =0A>>=0A>>Phil Schappert, = PhD=0A>>=0A>>27 Clovis Ave.=0A>>Halifax, NS, B3P 1J3=0A>>902-460-8343 (ce= ll)=0A>>=0A>>philschappert.com=0A>>imaginaturestudio.ca=0A>>philschappert.c= a=0A>>=0A>>"Just let imagination lead, reality will follow through..."=0A= >>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0(Michael Hedges) =0A>>=0A>> =0A>No virus found in this messag= e.=0A>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/=0A>Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus = =0A Database: 3931/7445 - Release Date: 05/05/14 ---1663062914-1587589204-1399472145=:15104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ve= rdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Well Dave as to hai= rless sheep.</span></div><div><span>It was a good project - the CDA hired l= ots of folks with lots of initials after their name - and of the correct po= litical views. I imagion most are still dr