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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01FA_01CF6972.9A26DC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mary & All, May 6, 2014 With regard to the effects on Arthropods of wearing Permethrin = treating clothing when in the woods it seems clear to me that, even if = widely used, the effect would be vanishingly small because (if I = understand this correctly) exposure must be by direct contact with the = clothing, exposure will be transient and the area of exposure will be = limited (a huge area of cloth is not left hanging in one place).=20 The direct effect of motor vehicle traffic on flying insects would = probably be at least one million times as great.=20 A few years ago it typically took 2 decades for someone to get a = clear grasp of even a narrow field of study so there was time for = reflection. The internet now furnishes rapid access to vast amounts of = information and exposure to countless instant experts. So one should = welcome verifiable raw information and be wary of perhaps faulty ideas.=20 Gulliver's travels in Laputa is a good place to start. Whatever = happened to that project to breed hairless sheep ? Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mary Macaulay=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - the Permethrin Option I hope people will consider very carefully before applying such = pesticides as bug b gon and others to their lawns and gardens. Google = them and check their toxicity to pollinators and other beneficial = insects. Surely at least those on this nature living list can be = leaders, communicators and advocates for dealing with the less than 2% = of insects considered pests in other ways rather than these incredibly = poisonous treatments.=20 As for ticks. Tuck your pant legs in your socks, wear bug jackets and = gloves etc. Washing pesticide soaked clothing introduces these chemicals = into our water.=20 Pyrethroids have been found to be unaffected by secondary treatment = systems at municipal wastewater treatment facilities. They appear in the = effluent, usually at levels lethal to invertebrates. With kindest regards Mary (Macaulay) marymacaulay@hotmail.com @maryemacaulay On May 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, "Dave&Jane Schlosberg" = <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: "Bug B Gon"--widely available hereabouts. It has pyrethrin. -----Original Message-----=20 From: Phil Schappert Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:04 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - the Permethrin Option At 6:49 PM -0300 5/5/14, Dave&Jane Schlosberg wrote: Permethrin is the chemical form of pyrethrin, which comes from=20 chrysanthemums. Pyrethrin is available in many insecticides sold = in=20 garden stores. It is said to irritate skin, but we sprayed it on = the=20 bottoms of pants and shirt cuffs. We haven=E2=A4=81t had any = ticks (yet!) on us.=20 Or skin irritation. A minor correction, Jane, permethrin is the man-made analog of pyrethrin and permethrin is available in far more insecticides than pyrethrin (because permethrin has a longer shelf-life, a longer active period and is cheaper to include in insecticide formulation). Phil --=20 Phil Schappert, PhD 27 Clovis Ave. Halifax, NS, B3P 1J3 902-460-8343 (cell) philschappert.com imaginaturestudio.ca philschappert.ca "Just let imagination lead, reality will follow through..." (Michael Hedges)=20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3931/7445 - Release Date: = 05/05/14 ------=_NextPart_000_01FA_01CF6972.9A26DC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3Dcontent-type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23588"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY dir=3Dauto bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Mary &=20 All, &nb= sp; &nbs= p; =20 May 6, 2014</DIV> <DIV> With regard to the effects on Arthropods of = wearing=20 Permethrin treating clothing when in the woods it seems clear to me = that, even=20 if widely used, the effect would be vanishingly small because (if I = understand this correctly) exposure must be by direct contact with the = clothing,=20 exposure will be transient and the area of exposure will be limited (a = huge area=20 of cloth is not left hanging in one place). </DIV> <DIV> The direct effect of motor vehicle traffic on = flying=20 insects would probably be at least one million times as great. </DIV> <DIV> A few years ago it typically took 2 decades for = someone=20 to get a clear grasp of even a narrow field of study so there was time = for=20 reflection. The internet now furnishes rapid access to vast amounts of=20 information and exposure to countless instant experts. So one = should=20 welcome verifiable raw information and be wary of perhaps faulty ideas. = </DIV> <DIV> Gulliver's travels in Laputa is a good place to = start.=20 Whatever happened to that project to breed hairless sheep ?</DIV> <DIV>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3DMarymacaulay@hotmail.com = href=3D"mailto:Marymacaulay@hotmail.com">Mary=20 Macaulay</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 05, 2014 8:41 = PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] Ticks = Out - the=20 Permethrin Option</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV st