[NatureNS] Farmed Salmon

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
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Hi Lance=0AStocking has been pretty well stopped in NS.=0AI think the Saint=
 John river is stocked from Mactaquak ( spelling ? )=0Awhich I believe is f=
rom the power agreement.=0AIn the 60s and 70s stocking was the in thing and=
 returns were high. This has=0Aresulted in a distorted picture from some ri=
ver counts - folks think the large=A0=0Anumbers in the 70s were the "Good o=
ld days"!=0ASome stocking may occur if there is surplus fish from the gene =
bank but=0Athis is not often.=0AHave a nice spring=0APaul=0A=0A=0A=0A______=
__________________________=0A From: "Laviolette, Lance (EXP)" <lance.laviol=
ette@lmco.com>=0ATo: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> =
=0ASent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:25:08 AM=0ASubject: Re: [NatureNS] Far=
med Salmon=0A =0A=0AHi Paul,=0A=A0=0ADo you know how much, if any, hatchery=
 stocking of salmon goes on in NB and NS rivers? =0A=A0=0AAll the best,=0A=
=A0=0ALance=0A=A0=0AFrom:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-own=
er@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Paul MacDonald=0ASent: Wednesday, June 13, =
2012 9:04 AM=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=0ASubject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Nature=
NS] Farmed Salmon=0A=A0=0AYes Dave - Salmon number on the Miramichi have ne=
ver been higher=0Aand records go back maybe 50 years. Newfoundland rivers a=
nd Quebec Rivers=A0=0Aalso. All on the internet but it takes time to dig th=
em out - easier to express opinions=0Athan to get the facts - LOL=0AThe num=
bers are a function of 2 main factors - the number of fish available to ret=
urn=0Aand the amount of water in the riv=0Aers plus the interaction between=
 the two and variables.=0Asuch as the spring tides corresponding to the maj=
or returns, rain at that time.=0AOn the Lahave the counter is at Morgan Fal=
ls at New Germany. Only the fish that=0Ago up the falls are counted - fish =
that go up other branchs or stay in the main river=0Adon't make the count s=
o the count at Morgan Falls is a good indicator of the total=0Areturn but i=
s not the number of fish entering the river. The counter used to be open to=
 the=A0=0Apublic and had a telephone number that gave the up to date count.=
 Perhaps will be=0Athis year also but I haven't visited or called lately.=
=0ACounters are kept at many other rivers in Atlantic Canada - all on the w=
ww.=0AThis year looks like the counts will be down - not for lack of fish b=
ut lack of water.=0AWe definitely need a few good rains - perhaps the farme=
rs should get the hay =A0up soon!=0AHave a nice spring=0APaul=0A=A0=0A=A0=
=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:David & Alison Webster <dw=
ebster@glinx.com>=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0ASent: Tuesday, June 12, =
2012 4:22:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon=0A=A0=0AHi Paul, Ji=
m=A0& All,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0&=0Anbsp; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 June 12, =
2012=0A=A0=A0=A0 If I understand you correctly Paul, the runs on the NB riv=
ers that empty into the Gulf of SL were unusually high last year. Have I go=
t that straight ? If so then that is very good news. How far back do the re=
cords go ? =0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 Drawing on memory, all of the famous Salmon r=
ivers in NB=A0emptied into the Gulf. For many years, every road end along F=
undy beaches had a weir and salmon were caught. As weir owners died these w=
eir rights died with them in most cases (some owners fought and managed to =
have them passed on I think), as I recall, on the assumption that weir catc=
hes were impacting salmon runs. =0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 Everything I know about =
Salmon and aquaculture=A0could be printed on a thumbnail but when I hear pe=
ople asking to have=A0Salmon farms=A0moved inland to=A0save wild Salmon=A0o=
r the Rockies moved east so Saskatchewan won't be so flat, I have a feeling=
 that my thumbnail counts as an ace.=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 Building Salmon pond=
s on land near the coast, maintaining adequate O 2levels, filtering out the=
 waste and composting this waste=A0would be energy intensive, at a time whe=
n energy conservation should be a top priority, resources intensive (for e.=
g. pond linings, pumps, retaining walls, waste water conduits),=A0the land =
for this would cost a bundle and those who own expensive costal property mi=
ght not welcome industrial ponds next door=A0and the additional cost=A0migh=
t well put another industry out of business. We need jobs, food and tax rev=
enue so solutions have to be realistic.=0A=A0=0AMy 2 cents as they say, rou=
nded up to a nickle now.=0ADave Webster, Kentville=0A=A0=0A----- Original M=
essage ----- =0AFrom:Paul MacDonald =0A>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent=
:Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:30 AM=0A>Subject:Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon=0A>=
=A0=0A>Hi Dave =0A>Good points you bring out.=0A>The whole question has bro=
ught out people with lots of opinions=0A>but with very little knowledge. Bu=
t that never stops the Media types - LOL!=0A>The wild salmon population in =
the Gulf of St Lawrence rivers was at an all time=0A>record as long as reco=
rds were kept. That was last year. Newfoundland rivers the=0A>same with som=
e exceptions as were European Rivers.=0A>A couple of rivers in Maine had la=
rge runs but the Bay of Fundy and Atlantic Coast=0A>rivers were low. All =
=A0the while the Natives and DOF play their chess game so its=0A>hard to kn=
ow if the population is going up, down or sideways.=0A>Nova =A0Scotia River=
s have big problems - the Mersey with dams, the Lahave with chain=0A>picher=
al and so on but instead of trying to solve these problems the media want=
=A0=0A>to wage war on the Fish Farms - go figure - guess they wa=0Ant somet=
hing sexy=0A>where they can find a villian. Sure not going to help the fish=
.=0A>Have a nice day=0A>Paul=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>=0A>__________________=
______________=0A>=0A>From:David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=0A>T=
o: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:34:16 PM=0A>Su=
bject: Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon=0A>=0A>Hi Sandy & All