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Index of Subjects ---2114655128-2071624731-1339595609=:39068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lance=0AStocking has been pretty well stopped in NS.=0AI think the Saint= John river is stocked from Mactaquak ( spelling ? )=0Awhich I believe is f= rom the power agreement.=0AIn the 60s and 70s stocking was the in thing and= returns were high. This has=0Aresulted in a distorted picture from some ri= ver counts - folks think the large=A0=0Anumbers in the 70s were the "Good o= ld days"!=0ASome stocking may occur if there is surplus fish from the gene = bank but=0Athis is not often.=0AHave a nice spring=0APaul=0A=0A=0A=0A______= __________________________=0A From: "Laviolette, Lance (EXP)" <lance.laviol= ette@lmco.com>=0ATo: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> = =0ASent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:25:08 AM=0ASubject: Re: [NatureNS] Far= med Salmon=0A =0A=0AHi Paul,=0A=A0=0ADo you know how much, if any, hatchery= stocking of salmon goes on in NB and NS rivers? =0A=A0=0AAll the best,=0A= =A0=0ALance=0A=A0=0AFrom:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-own= er@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Paul MacDonald=0ASent: Wednesday, June 13, = 2012 9:04 AM=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=0ASubject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Nature= NS] Farmed Salmon=0A=A0=0AYes Dave - Salmon number on the Miramichi have ne= ver been higher=0Aand records go back maybe 50 years. Newfoundland rivers a= nd Quebec Rivers=A0=0Aalso. All on the internet but it takes time to dig th= em out - easier to express opinions=0Athan to get the facts - LOL=0AThe num= bers are a function of 2 main factors - the number of fish available to ret= urn=0Aand the amount of water in the riv=0Aers plus the interaction between= the two and variables.=0Asuch as the spring tides corresponding to the maj= or returns, rain at that time.=0AOn the Lahave the counter is at Morgan Fal= ls at New Germany. Only the fish that=0Ago up the falls are counted - fish = that go up other branchs or stay in the main river=0Adon't make the count s= o the count at Morgan Falls is a good indicator of the total=0Areturn but i= s not the number of fish entering the river. The counter used to be open to= the=A0=0Apublic and had a telephone number that gave the up to date count.= Perhaps will be=0Athis year also but I haven't visited or called lately.= =0ACounters are kept at many other rivers in Atlantic Canada - all on the w= ww.=0AThis year looks like the counts will be down - not for lack of fish b= ut lack of water.=0AWe definitely need a few good rains - perhaps the farme= rs should get the hay =A0up soon!=0AHave a nice spring=0APaul=0A=A0=0A=A0= =0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:David & Alison Webster <dw= ebster@glinx.com>=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0ASent: Tuesday, June 12, = 2012 4:22:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon=0A=A0=0AHi Paul, Ji= m=A0& All,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0&=0Anbsp; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 June 12, = 2012=0A=A0=A0=A0 If I understand you correctly Paul, the runs on the NB riv= ers that empty into the Gulf of SL were unusually high last year. Have I go= t that straight ? If so then that is very good news. How far back do the re= cords go ? =0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 Drawing on memory, all of the famous Salmon r= ivers in NB=A0emptied into the Gulf. For many years, every road end along F= undy beaches had a weir and salmon were caught. As weir owners died these w= eir rights died with them in most cases (some owners fought and managed to = have them passed on I think), as I recall, on the assumption that weir catc= hes were impacting salmon runs. =0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 Everything I know about = Salmon and aquaculture=A0could be printed on a thumbnail but when I hear pe= ople asking to have=A0Salmon farms=A0moved inland to=A0save wild Salmon=A0o= r the Rockies moved east so Saskatchewan won't be so flat, I have a feeling= that my thumbnail counts as an ace.=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 Building Salmon pond= s on land near the coast, maintaining adequate O 2levels, filtering out the= waste and composting this waste=A0would be energy intensive, at a time whe= n energy conservation should be a top priority, resources intensive (for e.= g. pond linings, pumps, retaining walls, waste water conduits),=A0the land = for this would cost a bundle and those who own expensive costal property mi= ght not welcome industrial ponds next door=A0and the additional cost=A0migh= t well put another industry out of business. We need jobs, food and tax rev= enue so solutions have to be realistic.=0A=A0=0AMy 2 cents as they say, rou= nded up to a nickle now.=0ADave Webster, Kentville=0A=A0=0A----- Original M= essage ----- =0AFrom:Paul MacDonald =0A>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent= :Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:30 AM=0A>Subject:Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon=0A>= =A0=0A>Hi Dave =0A>Good points you bring out.=0A>The whole question has bro= ught out people with lots of opinions=0A>but with very little knowledge. Bu= t that never stops the Media types - LOL!=0A>The wild salmon population in = the Gulf of St Lawrence rivers was at an all time=0A>record as long as reco= rds were kept. That was last year. Newfoundland rivers the=0A>same with som= e exceptions as were European Rivers.=0A>A couple of rivers in Maine had la= rge runs but the Bay of Fundy and Atlantic Coast=0A>rivers were low. All = =A0the while the Natives and DOF play their chess game so its=0A>hard to kn= ow if the population is going up, down or sideways.=0A>Nova =A0Scotia River= s have big problems - the Mersey with dams, the Lahave with chain=0A>picher= al and so on but instead of trying to solve these problems the media want= =A0=0A>to wage war on the Fish Farms - go figure - guess they wa=0Ant somet= hing sexy=0A>where they can find a villian. Sure not going to help the fish= .=0A>Have a nice day=0A>Paul=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>=0A>__________________= ______________=0A>=0A>From:David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=0A>T= o: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:34:16 PM=0A>Su= bject: Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon=0A>=0A>Hi Sandy & All