[NatureNS] Farmed Salmon

From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:22:20 -0300
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Hi Paul, Jim & All,                    June 12, 2012
    If I understand you correctly Paul, the runs on the NB rivers that =
empty into the Gulf of SL were unusually high last year. Have I got that =
straight ? If so then that is very good news. How far back do the =
records go ?=20

    Drawing on memory, all of the famous Salmon rivers in NB emptied =
into the Gulf. For many years, every road end along Fundy beaches had a =
weir and salmon were caught. As weir owners died these weir rights died =
with them in most cases (some owners fought and managed to have them =
passed on I think), as I recall, on the assumption that weir catches =
were impacting salmon runs.=20

    Everything I know about Salmon and aquaculture could be printed on a =
thumbnail but when I hear people asking to have Salmon farms moved =
inland to save wild Salmon or the Rockies moved east so Saskatchewan =
won't be so flat, I have a feeling that my thumbnail counts as an ace.

    Building Salmon ponds on land near the coast, maintaining adequate =
O2 levels, filtering out the waste and composting this waste would be =
energy intensive, at a time when energy conservation should be a top =
priority, resources intensive (for e.g. pond linings, pumps, retaining =
walls, waste water conduits), the land for this would cost a bundle and =
those who own expensive costal property might not welcome industrial =
ponds next door and the additional cost might well put another industry =
out of business. We need jobs, food and tax revenue so solutions have to =
be realistic.

My 2 cents as they say, rounded up to a nickle now.
Dave Webster, Kentville

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Paul MacDonald=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon


  Hi Dave
  Good points you bring out.
  The whole question has brought out people with lots of opinions
  but with very little knowledge. But that never stops the Media types - =
LOL!
  The wild salmon population in the Gulf of St Lawrence rivers was at an =
all time
  record as long as records were kept. That was last year. Newfoundland =
rivers the
  same with some exceptions as were European Rivers.
  A couple of rivers in Maine had large runs but the Bay of Fundy and =
Atlantic Coast
  rivers were low. All  the while the Natives and DOF play their chess =
game so its
  hard to know if the population is going up, down or sideways.
  Nova  Scotia Rivers have big problems - the Mersey with dams, the =
Lahave with chain
  picheral and so on but instead of trying to solve these problems the =
media want=20
  to wage war on the Fish Farms - go figure - guess they want something =
sexy
  where they can find a villian. Sure not going to help the fish.
  Have a nice day
  Paul







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  From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:34:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon


  Hi Sandy & All,                    June 11, 2012
    The question that nags is: Would salmon have declined to the same =
extent (or nearly the same) if there had been no aquaculture ?

    Public pressure (perhaps misinformed pressure) may force the =
industry to undergo a modern version of ordeal by water; the original =
being you are innocent if you sink and drown but if you rise alive to =
the surface then you are guilty and burned at the stake. So this is not =
just an academic question.

    Drawing on memory, e.g. poor salmon runs in some NB rivers as early =
as 1950 led to a program to control Mergansers way before farmed salmon =
(I think). Also salmon runs along the South and Eastern shore have been =
in decline for 5 decades or more. how can aquaculture have caused this ? =
Have acid rain and overfishing in the ocean had no effects after all ?

    Assuming that sea lice and escaped farmed salmon adversely affect =
wild stock should not the emphasis be on solving these problems ?

  Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville


  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Hiltz" =
<birddog@ns.sympatico.ca>
  To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:21 AM
  Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon


  > Hi Dave,
  >=20
  > There is ample evidence of a steep decline in wild salmon stocks, =
both here
  > and in Europe, with the evolution of salmon aquaculture.
  > Salmon stocks were healthy in the inner Bay of Fundy in rivers like =
the St
  > John and Little Salmon rivers in New Brunswick and the Stewiacke in =
Nova
  > Scotia prior to open pen salmon farming.
  >=20
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
  > On Behalf Of David & Alison Webster
  > Sent: June-09-12 9:12 PM
  > To: NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca
  > Subject: [NatureNS] Farmed Salmon
  >=20
  > Dear All,                        June 9, 2012
  >    There has been numerous articles and letters recently about =
open-pen
  > Salmon farms. One in particular caught my eye (June 9, CH, Jim =
Gourlay)
  > "...proven devastation of wild Atlantic Salmon stocks wherever =
open-pen
  > salmon aquaculture has been sited..."
  >=20
  >    As I recall, salmon stocks were in very bad shape before culture =
of
  > salmon was initiated; culture of salmon being a way to offset the =
shortage
  > of wild salmon and take some pressure off of these wild stocks that =
were
  > probably being overfished off Greenland.
  >=20
  >    Are there really examples of abundant salmon stocks in areas =
where there
  > has been no open-pen salmon farming ?
  >=20
  >    Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
  >=20
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