[NatureNS] fiddleheads as food

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Hi Jane & All,                    May 15, 2010
    The comment that new shoots of Convallaria multiflora (aka Polygonatum multiflorum) can be eaten may be incorrect and an outcome of confused plant names.

    According to Fernald, Robbins & Kinsey the young shoots of Solomon's Seal [Polygonatum (3 species) ] can be eaten. These would presumably have been the native species (P. pubescens, P. biflorum & P. canaliculatum). As an aside, we have only P. pubescens but it is quite rare and consequently should not be eaten (except by slugs who unfortunately don't care; they gradually decreased my 8 (?) seedlings in the garden to zero).

    But Convallaria multiflora (aka Polygonatum multiflorum)  is not Solomon's Seal, it is Giant Solomon's Seal. 

    Perhaps someone saw that shoots of Solomon's Seal (i.e. P. pubescens...) were edible. Saw elsewhere that Solomon's Seal was Convallaria multiflora and consequently concluded incorrectly that shoots of Convallaria multiflora were edible.

    On the other hand-- They are closely related plants and C. multiflora (a garden ornamental I assume) is large and would likely have shoots of a significant size. If I had some nearby I would try it with caution.

Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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  From: david&jane schlosberg 
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
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  A friend of mine, who has been eating fiddleheads for years, recently bought some and tried a new recipe involving marinating--but NOT cooking--them.  Both she and her husband were quite ill afterwards.  Do any of you know anything about what might have contributed to their distress?  Of course, it might simply have been contaminating bacteria that got on them from the handling, but could there be something in them that gets destroyed during cooking?
  Also, do any of you know about the recent statement (Radio Noon-CBC) that Solomon's Seal (convallaria multiflora) is fine to eat when it first comes up as a new shoot?  I have a book on edible wild plants that says it is reported to be edible but not corroborated.  My old "The Herbalist" by Joseph Meyer says the root is emetic, tonic, and astringent, but doesn't mention the shoots.
  Jane Schlosberg


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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi Jane &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; May 15, 
2010</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The comment that new shoots of Convallaria 
multiflora (aka Polygonatum multiflorum) can be eaten may be incorrect and an 
outcome of confused plant names.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; According to Fernald, Robbins &amp; Kinsey 
the young shoots of Solomon's Seal [Polygonatum (3 species) ] can be eaten. 
These would presumably have been the native species (P. pubescens, P. biflorum 
&amp; P. canaliculatum). As an aside, we have only P. pubescens but it is quite 
rare and consequently should not be eaten (except by slugs who unfortunately 
don't care; they gradually decreased my&nbsp;8 (?) seedlings in the 
garden&nbsp;to zero).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But Convallaria multiflora (aka Polygonatum 
multiflorum)&nbsp; is not Solomon's Seal, it is Giant Solomon's Seal. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps someone saw that shoots of 
Solomon's Seal (i.e. P. pubescens...) were edible. Saw elsewhere that Solomon's 
Seal was Convallaria multiflora and consequently concluded incorrectly that 
shoots of Convallaria multiflora were edible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On the other hand-- They are closely 
related plants and C. multiflora (a garden ornamental I assume) is large and 
would likely have shoots of a significant size. If I had some nearby I would try 
it with caution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:30 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] fiddleheads as 
  food</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=875171914-15052010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>A 
  friend of mine, who has been eating fiddleheads for years, recently bought 
  some and tried a new recipe involving marinating--but NOT cooking--them.&nbsp; 
  Both she and her husband were quite ill afterwards.&nbsp; Do any of you know 
  anything about what might have contributed to their distress?&nbsp; Of course, 
  it might simply have been contaminating bacteria that got on them from the 
  handling, but&nbsp;could there&nbsp;be something in them that gets destroyed 
  during cooking?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
  class=875171914-15052010>Also, do any of you know about the recent statement 
  (Radio Noon-CBC) that Solomon's Seal (convallaria multiflora) is fine to eat 
  when it first comes up as a new shoot?&nbsp; I have a book on edible wild 
  plants that says it is reported to be edible but not corroborated.&nbsp; 
  </SPAN>M<SPAN class=875171914-15052010>y old "The Herbalist" by Joseph Meyer 
  says the root is emetic, tonic, and astringent, but doesn't mention the 
  shoots.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
  class=875171914-15052010>Jane Schlosberg</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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