[NatureNS] Sable Island National Park proposal

From: "Paul S. Boyer" <psboyer@eastlink.ca>
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I agree with Rob Woods.

The visitation to Sable Island by eco-tourists could be tightly =20
controlled, as it is for the Gal=E1pagos Islands.  It is easy to set up =20=

a few marked trails, and require that visitors stay on roads, the few =20=

trails, and the beach.  The costs alone would prevent mass =20
visitation.  The type of visitor would be largely influenced by self-=20
selection: probably only serious nature-lovers would make the trip.  =20
It would be best if there were few "improvements": no casinos, hotels, =20=

restaurants, &c.

Bear in mind that Sable Island shrinks each year, and will not even be =20=

there much longer.  There is no great harm in letting a few visitors =20
on the island each year, and they could help support a human presence.

=97 Paul Boyer

On 29 Jan 2010, at 10:47 AM, Rob Woods wrote:

> I do not see why Sable Island cannot be a national park but still =20
> require permits to visit. Nahanni NP requires all overnight visitors =20=

> to register in advance and access is limited. Also even Float Plane =20=

> day visitors are restricted to companies that have a registered =20
> landing permit.
>
> As for the number of visitors - this is an island 160KM offshore =20
> Canso across rough seas. Your average tourist is not going to make =20
> such a trip both because of cost and time to get there and =20
> especially if facilities are limited. Nahanni does not have visitors =20=

> centre either. While I agree their would be more visitors to the =20
> Island than today, I think we are only going to attract the die hard =20=

> enviromental tourist who is willing to pay the extra costs which =20
> could help the island and other nova scotia national parks. Access =20
> fees can be made financially significant.
>
> I am not saying there isnt a better solution but the National Park =20
> System has a lot of latitude with access. As a national park there =20
> also becomes restrictions on ownership, industry, hunting etc. =20
> Usually more so than other wildlife protect areas.
>
> Rob Woods
> Georgefield NS
>
> From: Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com>
> To: NS NATURE <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 10:27:37 AM
> Subject: [NatureNS] Sable Island National Park proposal
>
> Hi All,
>    I've been following the discussion of the Feds proposed making =20
> Sable Island a national park on Parker Donham's "Contrarian" blog =20
> and wondered why I haven't seen any discussion here on the idea; =20
> good or bad.
>    Most of the feedback I've seen has been that it is a bad idea and =20=

> at first blush I tend to agree.
>    The National parks are a wonderful institution but their =20
> philosophy (at least in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park;the =20=

> one I know best) on protecting wilderness tends to waffle between =20
> protect everything and keep people out and let in the tourists and =20
> make parks pay for themselves. Over the last decade they have been =20
> doing the former by trying to limit park overuse and emphasizing =20
> more wilderness protection & research. This came after decades of a =20=

> more tourist friendly philosophy that was more interested in visitor =20=

> totals than wilderness protection. Lately they have turned to a =20
> mixture of the two; protect some parts and encourage tourist =20
> visitation in others. This is probably the best solution as swinging =20=

> back and forth; at the whim of whatever philosophy is in vogue at =20
> the moment: makes it impossible to have a long term strategy that =20
> can have time to work for all parties involved.
>    The sable Island proposal has a few good things going for it; The =20=

> National Parks have lots of money for research and would allow for =20
> the installation of infrastructure (permanent air strip, research =20
> facilities' weather station etc.) and a permanent human presence on =20=

> the island.
>  On the other hand they want to allow much more access for tourists =20=

> to visit and there is no protection from the oil & gas industries =20
> that I can see.
> I don't think the province; who would have to approve this change in =20=

> status; have stated a firm position; although they have not ruled it =20=

> out and seem OK with further discussion.
>  For those interested in this proposal I recommend you check out =20
> Parker's blog as he has much more, and better stated, views =20
> including links to the actual proposal and a facebook page for those =20=

> opposed to the plan. http://contrarian.ca
>  All the best.
>                        Fritz McEvoy
>                        Sunrise Valley, CB
>
>
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I agree with Rob =
Woods.<div><br></div><div>The visitation to Sable Island by eco-tourists =
could be tightly controlled, as it is for the Gal=E1pagos Islands. =
&nbsp;It is easy to set up a few marked trails, and require that =
visitors stay on roads, the few trails, and the beach. &nbsp;The costs =
alone would prevent mass visitation. &nbsp;The type of visitor would be =
largely influenced by self-selection: probably only serious =
nature-lovers would make the trip. &nbsp;It would be best if there were =
few "improvements": no casinos, hotels, restaurants, =
&amp;c.</div><div><br></div><div>Bear in mind that Sable Island shrinks =
each year, and will not even be there much longer. &nbsp;There is no =
great harm in letting a few visitors on the island each year, and they =
could help support a human presence.</div><div><br></div><div>=97 Paul =
Boyer</div><div><br><div><div>On 29 Jan 2010, at 10:47 AM, Rob Woods =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times; font-size: medium; =
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font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: =
12pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I do not see why Sable Island cannot be a =
national park but still require permits to visit. Nahanni NP requires =
all overnight visitors to register in advance and access is limited. =
Also even Float Plane day visitors are restricted to companies that have =
a registered landing permit.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">As for the number of visitors - =
this is an island 160KM offshore Canso across rough seas. Your average =
tourist is not going to make such a trip both because of cost and time =
to get there and especially if facilities are limited. Nahanni does not =
have visitors centre either. While I agree their would be more visitors =
to the Island than today, I think we are only going to attract the die =
hard&nbsp;enviromental tourist&nbsp;who is willing to pay the extra =
costs which could help the island and other nova scotia national parks. =
Access fees can be made financially significant.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I am not =
saying there isnt a better solution but the National Park System has a =
lot of latitude with access. As a national park there also becomes =
restrictions on ownership, industry, hunting etc. Usually more so than =
other wildlife protect areas.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Rob Woods</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Georgefield NS<br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; =
"><br><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', =
'new york', times, serif; "><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><hr =
size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fritz McEvoy &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com">fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br=
><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>NS NATURE &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;<br=
><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fri, January 29, 2010 =
10:27:37 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; =
">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[NatureNS] Sable Island =
National Park proposal<br></font><br>Hi All,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; I've been =
following the discussion of the Feds proposed making Sable Island a =
national park on Parker Donham's "Contrarian" blog and wondered why I =
haven't seen any discussion here on the idea; good or =
bad.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Most of the feedback I've seen has been that =
it is a bad idea and at first blush&nbsp;I tend to agree.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
National parks are a wonderful institution but their philosophy (at =
least in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park;the one I know =
best)&nbsp;on protecting wilderness tends to waffle between protect =
everything and keep people out and&nbsp;let in the tourists and make =
parks pay for themselves.&nbsp;Over the&nbsp;last decade they have been =
doing the former&nbsp;by trying to limit park overuse =
and&nbsp;emphasizing more wilderness protection &amp; research. This =
came after decades of a more tourist friendly philosophy that was more =
interested in visitor totals than wilderness protection. Lately they =
have turned to a mixture of the two; protect some parts and encourage =
tourist visitation in others. This is probably the best solution as =
swinging back and forth; at the whim of whatever philosophy is in vogue =
at the moment: makes it impossible to have a long term strategy that can =
have time to work for all parties involved.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; The sable =
Island proposal has a few good things going for it; The National Parks =
have lots of money for research and would&nbsp;allow for the =
installation&nbsp;of infrastructure (permanent air strip, research =
facilities' weather station etc.) and a permanent human presence&nbsp;on =
the island.<br>&nbsp;On the other hand they want to allow much more =
access&nbsp;for tourists&nbsp;to visit and there is no protection from =
the&nbsp;oil &amp; gas industries that I can see.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>I don't think the =
province; who would have to approve&nbsp;this change in status; have =
stated a firm position; although they have not ruled it out and seem OK =
with further discussion.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;For those interested in =
this proposal I recommend you check out Parker's blog as he has much =
more, and better stated, views including links to the actual proposal =
and a&nbsp;facebook page for those opposed to the plan.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://contrarian.ca/" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow">http://contrarian.ca</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&nbsp;All the =
best.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Fritz =
McEvoy<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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