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Index of Subjects --Apple-Mail-1-788476993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Randy, Richard, et al., If I were disciplined enough to actually keep decent bird records like you guys, I would go with eBird (http://ebird.org/content/ebird/). It's got a lot of nice features and they're continually adding new ones. Plus if it ever goes belly up they're sure to provide a good transition to whatever new system comes next. Cheers, Andy On 20-Oct-09, at 10:07 PM, Richard Stern wrote: > Hi Randy, > > I sort of agree- it's quirky software that has quite a learning > curve and seems outdated in style, but once you accept that, it > seems to to the job(s) it was designed for, well.. Once you get used > to its method of data entry, it works well, and the documentation > provided with it is superb. However, updating it with various lumps > and splits, range changes etc., is very hard and frustrating. I have > still never got the hang of the "trips" module. It's certainly great > for looking up data such as "how many species have I seen in my back > yard but not in Europe, and have photographed", and similar odd > exercises. > > A number of years ago I created my own lists using basic database > software, but it became too time consuming and unwieldy, so I ended > up buying and still use, Avisys. > > However, I have gone over to the light side (a Mac), and there > doesn't seem to be any decent listing software at all for that > platform. So I still keep Avisys on my virtual Windows XP partition > on the Mac and use Parallels to access it - one of only 3 programs I > now use that require Windows. There is now so much data on my copy > of Avisys that even if I found something better, it would have to > have a fast and automatic import function to make the switch. > > Having said that, I googled listing software, and there are 2 that > look promising - Birders Diary (which can apparently import data > from Avisys) and an on-line one, Birdstack, if you like your data in > the "cloud". > > Interesting topic! > > Richard > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Randy Lauff > <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote: > All, > > I have used AviSys bird listing software for about 10 years. It is > the single worst piece of software I own....everything from > redundant key strokes to counter-intuitive data entry, I think it's > time for a change. > > Can anyone describe other software that they use, pros and cons? > > Thanks, > Randy > _________________________________ > RF Lauff > Way in the boonies of > Antigonish County, NS. > > > > -- > ################# > Dr.R.B.Stern, > P.O. Box 300, > Port Williams, > N.S., Canada, > B0P 1T0 > > Richard Stern, > 317 Middle Dyke Rd. > Port Williams, NS, Canada > B0P 1T0 > > sternrichard@gmail.com > ################### --Apple-Mail-1-788476993 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Randy, Richard, et = al.,<div><br></div><div>If I were disciplined enough to actually keep = decent bird records like you guys, I would go with eBird (<a = href=3D"http://ebird.org/content/ebird/">http://ebird.org/content/ebird/</= a>). It's got a lot of nice features and they're continually adding new = ones. Plus if it ever goes belly up they're sure to provide a good = transition to whatever new system comes = next.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div>= <div><div><div>On 20-Oct-09, at 10:07 PM, Richard Stern wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi = Randy,<br><br>I sort of agree- it's quirky software that has quite a = learning curve and seems outdated in style, but once you accept that, it = seems to to the job(s) it was designed for, well.. Once you get used to = its method of data entry, it works well, and the documentation provided = with it is superb. However, updating it with various lumps and splits, = range changes etc., is very hard and frustrating. I have still never got = the hang of the "trips" module. It's certainly great for looking up data = such as "how many species have I seen in my back yard but not in Europe, = and have photographed", and similar odd exercises.<br> <br>A number of = years ago I created my own lists using basic database software, = but it became too time consuming and unwieldy, so I ended up buying and = still use, Avisys. <br><br>However, I have gone over to the light side = (a Mac), and there doesn't seem to be any decent listing software at all = for that platform. So I still keep Avisys on my virtual Windows XP = partition on the Mac and use Parallels to access it - one of only 3 = programs I now use that require Windows. There is now so much data on my = copy of Avisys that even if I found something better, it would have to = have a fast and automatic import function to make the switch.<br> = <br>Having said that, I googled listing software, and there are 2 that = look promising - Birders Diary (which can apparently import data from = Avisys) and an on-line one, Birdstack, if you like your data in the = "cloud".<br> <br>Interesting topic!<br><br>Richard<br><br><div = class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Randy Lauff = <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a = href=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>></span> = wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px = solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: = 1ex;">All,<br clear=3D"all"><br>I have used AviSys bird listing software = for about 10 years. It is the single worst piece of software I = own....everything from redundant key strokes to counter-intuitive data = entry, I think it's time for a change.<div> <br></div><div>Can anyone = describe other software that they use, pros and = cons?<br><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br>Randy<br>_________________________= ________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, = NS.<br> </div></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- = <br>#################<br>Dr.R.B.Stern, <br>P.O. Box 300,<br>Port = Williams,<br>N.S., Canada,<br>B0P 1T0<br><br>Richard Stern, <br>317 = Middle Dyke Rd.<br>Port Williams, NS, Canada<br> B0P 1T0<br><br><a = href=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com">sternrichard@gmail.com</a><br>#####= ##############<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-1-788476993--
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