[NatureNS] sick and dead mourning doves, was Storm Birds

Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:09:54 -0400
From: Helene Van Doninck <hvandoninck@eastlink.ca>
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Hi there, I just got this email, havent got to check it in a few days. Hard
to say what is killing the doves. especially if they arent thin. THe ones in
my neighbourhood spend a lot of time on the road and in the driveway so that
doesnt sound odd to me. If you think there are significant numbers of dead,
maybe contact the dept of natural resources to see about  having a couple of
them post mortemed. People from the general public can submit them too as
far as i know, either through the path lab at the NSAC or by contacting the
Atlantic Veterinary College. They are  the local go to group for the
Canadian Cooperative Wildlife Health Centre and always seem interested in
getting specimens. Contact me privately if you want info on how to do that

Thanks

Helene

Helene Van Doninck DVM
Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre
RR#1 Brookfield Nova Scotia Canada B0N1C0
hvandoninck@eastlink.ca
www.cwrc.net
1-902-893-0253

  -----Original Message-----
  From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of James W. Wolford
  Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:07 PM
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
  Subject: [NatureNS] sick and dead mourning doves, was Storm Birds


  Thanks, Martin. Martin lives north of Port Williams, King's Co. His dead
and sick mourning doves are of great concern, and perhaps someone (Helene?)
out there in cyberspace can react in some way.


  Cheers? from Jim in Wolfville.



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    From: Martin Thomas <harthomas@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Date: November 23, 2008 3:03:21 PM AST
    To: jimwolford@eastlink.ca
    Subject: Storm Birds


    Dear Jim:
    Our feeders were very quiet before the storm struck, mostly used by many
Blue Jays which seem more numerous this year. However, large numbers and
diversity arrived with the storm, at present we have White Throated Sparrows
(many), White-crowned Sparrows(2), American Tree Sparrows (few), Juncos
(many), House Sparrows (several), Blue Jays (16+), Mourning Doves (over 50),
Starlings (innumerable), Yellow-shafted Flicker (1), Hairy Woodpecker (2).
    The Mourning Doves deserve special mention. First this is the most we
have ever seen at once. Second there have been at least three deaths around
the feeders and several others are weak and only fly away when one is almost
up to them. Dead ones seem not emaciated, even plump. Third, when not
feeding they are on our drive (paved) and on the road. In both locations
they are pecking at small particles, presumably grit. We wonder if the
sudden onset of winter found them unprepared for feeder food and unable to
grind up the hard particles. The most that I have counted feeding at any one
time is 44 but there are more in the evergreen trees that surround our
property.
    I have seen no Song Sparrows which we usually have in winter.
    All the best Martin


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<DIV><SPAN class=276110603-29112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi 
there, I just got this email, havent got to check it in a few days. Hard to say 
what is killing the doves. especially if they arent thin. THe ones in my 
neighbourhood spend a lot of time on the road and in the driveway so that doesnt 
sound odd to me. If you think there are significant numbers of dead, maybe 
contact the dept of natural resources to see about&nbsp; having a couple of them 
post mortemed. People from the general public can submit them too as far as i 
know, either through the path lab at the NSAC or by contacting the Atlantic 
Veterinary College. They are&nbsp; the local go to group for the Canadian 
Cooperative Wildlife Health Centre and always seem interested in getting 
specimens. Contact me privately if you want info on how to do 
that</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=276110603-29112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=276110603-29112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=276110603-29112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=276110603-29112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Helene</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Helene Van Doninck DVM<BR>Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation 
Centre<BR>RR#1 Brookfield Nova Scotia Canada 
B0N1C0<BR>hvandoninck@eastlink.ca<BR>www.cwrc.net<BR>1-902-893-0253</FONT> </P>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<B>On 
  Behalf Of </B>James W. Wolford<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:07 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] sick 
  and dead mourning doves, was Storm Birds<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Thanks, Martin. 
  Martin lives north of Port Williams, King's Co. His dead and sick mourning 
  doves are of great concern, and perhaps someone (Helene?) out there in 
  cyberspace can react in some way. 
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers? from Jim in Wolfville.<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
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    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3>Martin Thomas &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:harthomas@ns.sympatico.ca">harthomas@ns.sympatico.ca</A>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3>November 23, 2008 3:03:21 
    PM AST</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3><A 
    href="mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</A></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3><B>Storm 
    Birds</B></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=785474318-23112008>Dear 
    Jim:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=785474318-23112008>Our feeders were 
    very quiet before the storm struck, mostly used by many Blue Jays which seem 
    more numerous this year. However, large numbers and diversity arrived with 
    the storm, at present we have White Throated Sparrows (many), White-crowned 
    Sparrows(2), American Tree Sparrows (few), Juncos (many), House Sparrows 
    (several), Blue Jays (16+), Mourning Doves (over 50), Starlings 
    (innumerable), Yellow-shafted Flicker (1), Hairy Woodpecker 
    (2).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=785474318-23112008>The Mourning 
    Doves deserve special mention. First this is the most we have ever seen at 
    once. Second there have been at least three deaths around the feeders and 
    several others are weak and only fly away when one is almost up to them. 
    Dead ones seem not emaciated, even plump. Third, when not feeding they are 
    on our drive (paved) and on the road. In both locations they are pecking at 
    small particles, presumably grit. We wonder if the sudden onset of winter 
    found them unprepared for feeder food and unable to grind up the hard 
    particles. The most that I have counted feeding at any one time is 44 but 
    there are more in the evergreen trees that surround our 
    property.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=785474318-23112008>I have seen no 
    Song Sparrows which we usually have in winter.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=785474318-23112008>All the best 
    Martin</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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