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------=_Part_499_22567887.1222889971711 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Just to digress on Roland's last point a bit... it's true that the compound methane (CH4) exists in some regions on the ocean floor in the form of gas hydrates. It's also true that each molecule of methane has a much more powerful greenhouse potential than carbon dioxide (CO2). However, the concern over gas hydrates is their stability. Gas hydrates only form under = a certain combination of temperature and pressure in the ocean. If the ocean warms too much (presumably because of increased atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations), some theorize that the gas hydrates could become unstable and release their methane to the atmosphere, further compounding the atmospheric warming that caused the instability in the first place. There are many such positive feedbacks known in climate systems. Bruce On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Roland McCormick < roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > I can understand people accepting the Green Party ideas, but the tax on > fuel is completely unacceptable to me, and most of my friends. Under the > Green plan the price of heating oil will increase 10 % this year, and 40%= in > four years, and there is no substitute in site. I think instead of trying= to > tax people to death the emphasis should be on new ways to heat our homes.= I > am far more concerned about what will happen this winter than I am in wha= t > will happen to our world in a hundred years time. I also am told that > methane gass on the floor of the ocean is a greater danger than carbon. > > Roland. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Wayne P. Neily <neilyornis@hotmail.com> > *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:21 PM > *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] Nova Scotia's nature and the federal election > > Hello folks, > > While most of us would agree with Blake that a Harper majority would b= e > a disaster for Canada, I would hope that most would vote for the party th= at > has the best understanding of, and solutions for, environmental issues, > unless you are in a constituency where there is a real danger that the > regressive conservatives might eke out a narrow victory. This idea of > exchanging votes strategically may have merit, but it depends on complete > trust between the persons doing the exchange and so is subject to abuse, = as > well as to wrong guesses as to which party would have the best chance of = an > upset. > > At the risk of sounding political (I have not yet decided whom to vote > for), I am envious of the residents of Central Nova, who not only have a > chance to elect the leader best informed on environmental issues (and the > only female), but to defeat Peter MacKayavelli, who is an embarrassment t= o > Canadians still best known for his betrayal of the PCs by breaking the > promise that he gave in writing to get the leadership of the party. No > wonder that he couldn't understand what all the fuss was about when Harpe= r > decided that the government should disregard (or break) the Atlantic > Accords. We can only hope that enough of the voters there will think > carefully, instead of just voting for a favorite son of a favorite son. > > Think Green! > > Wayne Neily > Tremont, Kings Co., Nova Scotia > > "Think globally, Act locally." - Ren=E9 Dubos, 1972. > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:59:01 -0300 > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > From: maybank@ns.sympatico.ca > Subject: [NatureNS] Nova Scotia's nature and the federal election > > Hi All; > > I care deeply for the nature of Nova Scotia, and the environment of the > world. Consequently, it is necessary to get political at times. This i= s > one of those times. > > I shudder at the thought of Harper achieving a majority government. The > environment, our culture, and our society will suffer. But how can we ma= ke > our anti-Harper votes count? Fortunately, voting strategically is now m= uch > easier. Go to: > > www.voteforenvironment.com > > It is a remarkable website that is tracking every riding in the country, > and making up-to-the-minute suggestions on how best to fight Harper. > > And afterwards, I urge you to contact your friends, family, colleagues, a= nd > everyone on your e-mail list, and let them know about this web site. If = we > can affect the results in some key ridings, who knows what might happen? > Our environment and our society deserve our support. > > Respectfully, > > Blake Maybank > White's Lake, NS > maybank@ns.sympatico.ca > > ------------------------------ > Get your information fix on your phone. With MSN Mobile you get regular > news, sports and finance updates. Try it today! <http://www.msnmobile.ca= > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 10/1/2008 > 9:05 AM > > --=20 Bruce Stevens Maryvale, NS ------=_Part_499_22567887.1222889971711 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline <div dir=3D"ltr">Just to digress on Roland's last point a bit... it'= ;s true that the compound methane (CH4) exists in some regions on the ocean= floor in the form of gas hydrates. It's also true that each molecule o= f methane has a much more powerful greenhouse potential than carbon dioxide= (CO2). However, the concern over gas hydrates is their stability. Gas hydr= ates only form under a certain combination of temperature and pressure in t= he ocean. If the ocean warms too much (presumably because of increased atmo= spheric greenhouse gas concentrations), some theorize that the gas hydrates= could become unstable and release their methane to the atmosphere, further= compounding the atmospheric warming that caused the instability in the fir= st place. There are many such positive feedbacks known in climate systems.<= br> <br>Bruce<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:59 PM,= Roland McCormick <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:roland.mccormick@= ns.sympatico.ca">roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>= <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, = 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <div><font face=3D"Arial">I can understand people accepting the Green Party= ideas,=20 but the tax on fuel is completely unacceptable to me, and most of my friend= s.=20 Under the Green plan the price of heating oil will increase 10 % this year,= =20 and 40% in four years, and there is no substi