[NatureNS] re books on butterflies and moths and skippers

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For lepidoptera:

The book Moths by Holland (from an old nature series published 1903 =20
and reissued over the years) is still one of the best.  An early =20
review in the New York Times is available on the Internet =
(http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=3D1&res=3D9A07E1DE1038E7=
33A25751C0A9679C946597D6CF&oref=3Dslogin=20
).

The colour illustrations cover just about every moth one is likely to =20=

find north of M=E9xico.  The book is more than just a guide to =20
identification, for every so often Holland inserts a narrative of his =20=

adventures moth collecting, such as sugaring for moths in Japan as a =20
summer thunderstorm approached.  It is wonderful nature-writing.

It is quite possible to find this book on the used market, even a =20
century later, and it is worth looking for it.  I got a hardbound copy =20=

in great condition for $10 some decades ago.  Of course, the taxonomic =20=

terminology has changed quite a bit since then.  Never fear: there is =20=

a Dover paperback version which includes an added section bringing the =20=

Linnaean names up-to-date, at least to the time of that reprint.

For butterflies, there is The Butterflies of Canada (1998, Univ. =20
Toronto Press, quarto 280 pp. spiral bound, something like $25 a few =20
years ago).  It has descriptions, maps, colour plates, and everything.

For spiders, the Golden Guide book is really remarkable.  It was =20
written partly by Prof. Levi of Harvard, and it includes pretty up-to-=20=

date names, and some illustrations in colour of common spiders which =20
are almost never shown except in black-and-white.  I think that this =20
is one of the most outstanding of the Golden Guides series.

I am an admirer of the orb-weavers, and have found that the best book =20=

for our area (also much of the northern USA) is unfortunately very =20
expensive, so it you buy a copy, you may have to conceal it from your =20=

family: that is The Insects and Arachnids of Canada, Part 23, The Orb-=20=

Weaving Spiders of Canada and Alaska.  No colour illustrations at all, =20=

but lots of detail, for which you pay dearly (about $50 from NRC =20
Research Press, Ottawa).  Guess your tax dollars didn't work as hard =20
on this one as we would have liked.

While we are on nature books, I must mention one truly outstanding, =20
super-duper volume: Lichens of North America, Yale University Press, =20
2001; quarto, 795 pp., with 924 colour plates (all excellent, sharp =20
photographs).  This is the best thing in the world ever written about =20=

lichens, and has everything.  It was originally $69.95, and you should =20=

have run out to buy it then, because now I think that it is about =20
$120.  As of a few years ago, there was no library copy listed in the =20=

databases for the public libraries of Nova Scotia.  Maybe the museum =20
had one, but it appeared that there was not a single publicly =20
available copy in the whole province, and this is just about lichen =20
central.  Even if you do not buy a copy, you should look at one, =20
because compared to this, all the pre-existing dumb little guides are =20=

nothing.

=97 Paul





On Jul 10, 2008, at 1:48 PM, James W. Wolford wrote:

> A very affordable guide for beginners on Lepidoptera ('leps') is the =20=

> Golden Guide to Butterflies and Moths.  It is fairly comprehensive =20
> regarding showing important groups, and the Latinized names can be =20
> found listed by page just before the index at the back.  Also there =20=

> are lots of colour pictures of caterpillars, which are big bonuses.  =20=

> Also get hold of the Halifax Field Naturalists checklist of Nova =20
> Scotia butterflies (by Linda and Peter Payzant), which is a bit =20
> dated now but still current (and I think there is an up-to-date Web-=20=

> site kept up by the Payzants?).
>
> Cheers from Jim in Wolfville
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Andy Dean <aadean@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> Date: July 10, 2008 12:31:25 PM ADT
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Tiny Butterfly
>> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>
>> Your query about a reference book seems to have gone unheeded thus =20=

>> far Melvina.
>> I find "The Audubon Society Field guide to North American Insects =20
>> and Spiders" very useful , it is a bit outdated maybe, but that =20
>> should not be important and I expect it is available second-=20
>> hand....you could try
>> http://www.abebooks.com/  It isn't totally comprehensive regarding =20=

>> butterflies and moths...e.g. it has the Forester but not the =20
>> Sable .... however it is still generally very useful.
>>  Incidentally, as I explored my books for you  I discovered that =20
>> this 'butterfly' is actually a moth.
>> Andy
>>
>> Andy & Lelia Dean
>> 86 Baden Powell Drive
>> Kentville, NS. Canada. B4N 5P5
>> Tel: [902] 678-6243
>>
>> aadean@ns.sympatico.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Melvina Weatherby
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:32 PM
>> Subject: [NatureNS] Tiny Butterfly
>>
>> I  grabbed a shot at  a beautiful tiny butterfly  today , I would =20
>> like to know the name of it also  any  reference to a  book  I =20
>> could buy of  insects and butterflys.. Thanks.
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/applady2001/july_bugs
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">For =
lepidoptera:<div><br></div><div>The book <i>Moths</i> by Holland (from =
an old nature series published 1903 and reissued over the years) is =
still one of the best. &nbsp;An early review in the <i>New York =
Times</i> is available on the Internet (<a =
href=3D"http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=3D1&amp;res=3D9A0=
7E1DE1038E733A25751C0A9679C946597D6CF&amp;oref=3Dslogin)">http://query.nyt=
imes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=3D1&amp;res=3D9A07E1DE1038E733A25751C0A96=
79C946597D6CF&amp;oref=3Dslogin)</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>The =
colour illustrations cover just about every moth one is likely to find =
north of M=E9xico. &nbsp;The book is more than just a guide to =
identification, for every so often Holland inserts a narrative of his =
adventures moth collecting, such as sugaring for moths in Japan as a =
summer thunderstorm approached. &nbsp;It is wonderful =
nature-writing.</div><div><br></div><div>It is quite possible to find =
this book on the used market, even a century later, and it is worth =
looking for it. &nbsp;I got a hardbound copy in great condition for $10 =
some decades ago. &nbsp;Of course, the taxonomic terminology has changed =
quite a bit since then. &nbsp;Never fear: there is a Dover paperback =
version which includes an added section bringing the Linnaean names =
up-to-date, at least to the time of that =
reprint.</div><div><br></div><div>For butterflies, there is <i>The =
Butterflies of Canada</i> (1998, Univ. Toronto Press, quarto 280 pp. =
spiral bound, something like $25 a few years ago). &nbsp;It has =
descriptions, maps, colour plates, and =
everything.</div><div><br></div><div>For spiders, the Golden Guide book =
is really remarkable. &nbsp;It was written partly by Prof. Levi of =
Harvard, and it includes pretty up-to-date names, and some illustrations =
in colour of common spiders which are almost never shown except in =
black-and-white. &nbsp;I think that this is one of the most outstanding =
of the Golden Guides series.</div><div><br></div><div>I am an admirer of =
the orb-weavers, and have found that the best book for our area (also =
much of the northern USA) is unfortunately very expensive, so it you buy =
a copy, you may have to conceal it from your family: that is <i>The =
Insects and Arachnids of Canada, Part 23, The Orb-Weaving Spiders of =
Canada and Alaska</i>. &nbsp;No colour illustrations at all, but lots of =
detail, for which you pay dearly (about $50 from NRC Research Press, =
Ottawa). &nbsp;Guess your tax dollars didn't work as hard on this one as =
we would have liked.</div><div><br></div><div>While we are on nature =
books, I must mention one truly outstanding, super-duper volume: =
<i>Lichens of North America</i>, Yale University Press, 2001; quarto, =
795 pp., with 924 colour plates (all excellent, sharp photographs). =
&nbsp;This is the best thing in the world ever written about lichens, =
and has everything. &nbsp;It was originally $69.95, and you should have =
run out to buy it then, because now I think that it is about $120. =
&nbsp;As of a few years ago, there was no library copy listed in the =
databases for the public libraries of Nova Scotia. &nbsp;Maybe the =
museum had one, but it appeared that there was not a single publicly =
available copy in the whole province, and this is just about lichen =
central. &nbsp;Even if you do not buy a copy, you should look at one, =
because compared to this, all the pre-existing dumb little guides are =
nothing.</div><div><br></div><div>=97 =
Paul</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
><br><div><div>On Jul 10, 2008, at 1:48 PM, James W. Wolford =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> A very affordable guide =
for beginners on Lepidoptera ('leps') is the Golden Guide to Butterflies =
and Moths. &nbsp;It is fairly comprehensive regarding showing important =
groups, and the Latinized names can be found listed by page just before =
the index at the back. &nbsp;Also there are lots of colour pictures of =
caterpillars, which are big bonuses. &nbsp;Also get hold of the Halifax =
Field Naturalists checklist of Nova Scotia butterflies (by Linda and =
Peter Payzant), which is a bit dated now but still current (and I think =
there is an up-to-date Web-site kept up by the =
Payzants?).<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in =
Wolfville<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: =
</b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Andy Dean &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aadean@ns.sympatico.ca">aadean@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></font><=
/div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 10, 2008 12:31:25 PM =
ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Tiny =
Butterfly</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">Your query about a reference book seems to have gone unheeded =
thus far Melvina.</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I =
find "The Audubon Society Field guide to North American Insects and =
Spiders" very useful , it is a bit outdated maybe, but that should not =
be important and I expect it is available second-hand....you could =
try</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a =
href=3D"http://www.abebooks.com/">http://www.abebooks.com/</a>&nbsp; It =
isn't totally comprehensive regarding butterflies and moths...e.g. it =
has the Forester but not the Sable&nbsp;....&nbsp;however it&nbsp;is =
still generally very useful.</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">&nbsp;Incidentally, as I explored my books for you &nbsp;I =
discovered that this 'butterfly' is actually a =
moth.</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">Andy</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Andy =
&amp; Lelia Dean<br>86 Baden Powell Drive<br>Kentville, NS. Canada. B4N =
5P5<br>Tel: [902] 678-6243</font></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><font =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a =
href=3D"mailto:aadean@ns.sympatico.ca">aadean@ns.sympatico.ca</a></font></=
div><div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; =
border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style=3D"font: =
normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message =
-----</div><div style=3D"background-image: initial; background-repeat: =
initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: =
initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, =
228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"derrickweatherby@eastlink.ca" =
href=3D"mailto:derrickweatherby@eastlink.ca">Melvina =
Weatherby</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></div><=
div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
"><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, July 09, 2008 =
11:32 PM</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[NatureNS] Tiny =
Butterfly</div><div><br></div><div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">I&nbsp; grabbed a shot at&nbsp; a beautiful tiny =
butterfly&nbsp; today , I would like to know the name of it also&nbsp; =
any&nbsp; reference to a&nbsp; book&nbsp; I could buy&nbsp;of =
&nbsp;insects and butterflys.. Thanks.</font></div><div><font =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><a =
href=3D"http://www.pbase.com/applady2001/july_bugs">http://www.pbase.com/a=
pplady2001/july_bugs</a></div></blockquote></span></blockquote></div><br><=
/div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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