[NatureNS] Peter or Peters vs. Peter's Island

Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:01:58 -0300
From: Brian Bartlett <bbartlett@eastlink.ca>
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I seem to recall that this matter of "to apostrophize or not to apostrophize" with place names came up in this listserv discussion a couple of years ago. Mention was made then of the reluctance of mapmakers to use apostrophes over bodies of water in case they get mistaken for islands. As funny as this sounds, I got the impression this quirk wasn't just apocryphal. 
Brian
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  From: James W. Wolford 
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:35 PM
  Subject: [NatureNS] Peter or Peters vs. Peter's Island


  To me the issue of the APOSTROPHE and its imminent extinction is a BIGGY.  Regarding place-names, I believe that not only is there a grammar sub-issue, but the dropping of the apostrophe carries with it the dropping of heritage information that mnight prove to be difficult or impossible to regain as time goes by.  I think the Royal Geographical Society rules are in there somewhere, and once I heard that map-readers can get confused when an apostrophe might look like an isle/small island. 


  Perhaps this can all be discussed later by those of us to whom this is not trivial?


  My inclination, along with my own grammar rules (personal ones that make sense to me), for questionable place names, like Starr's Point east of Port Williams, is to put the apostrophe in whenever my guess is that one is deserved.  


  One case where I was wrong, and no longer use an apostrophe, is for Noggins Corner Farm-market at Greenwich.


  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.



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    From: Andy Moir/Chris Callaghan <andyandchris@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Date: July 10, 2008 11:13:30 AM ADT
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Peter or Peters Island
    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca


    Thanks to those who replied.  When in doubt, I always will go with the best local knowledge I can get.  It is interesting, however, that some local websites refer to it as Peter Island, others Peters Island, and still others Peter's Island.
    Andy


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I seem to recall that this matter of "to 
apostrophize or not to apostrophize" with place names came up in this listserv 
discussion a couple of years ago. Mention was made then of the reluctance of 
mapmakers to use apostrophes over bodies of water in case they get mistaken for 
islands. As funny as this sounds, I got the impression this quirk wasn't just 
apocryphal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=jimwolford@eastlink.ca href="mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W. 
  Wolford</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:35 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] Peter or Peters vs. 
  Peter's Island</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>To me the issue of the APOSTROPHE and its imminent extinction 
  is a BIGGY. &nbsp;Regarding place-names, I believe that not only is there a 
  grammar sub-issue, but the dropping of the apostrophe carries with it the 
  dropping of heritage information that mnight prove to be difficult or 
  impossible to regain as time goes by. &nbsp;I think the Royal Geographical 
  Society rules are in there somewhere, and once I heard that map-readers can 
  get confused when an apostrophe might look like an isle/small island.&nbsp;
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Perhaps this can all be discussed later by those of us to whom this is 
  not trivial?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>My inclination, along with my own grammar rules (personal ones that make 
  sense to me), for questionable place names, like Starr's Point east of Port 
  Williams, is to put the apostrophe in whenever my guess is that one is 
  deserved. &nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>One case where I was wrong, and no longer use an apostrophe, is for 
  Noggins Corner Farm-market at Greenwich.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
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    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3>Andy Moir/Chris Callaghan 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:andyandchris@ns.sympatico.ca">andyandchris@ns.sympatico.ca</A>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3>July 10, 2008 11:13:30 AM 
    ADT</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3><A 
    href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" 
    face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT 
    style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3><B>Re: [NatureNS] Peter 
    or Peters Island</B></FONT></DIV>
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