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That snouty appendage did give me some pause in my original analysis...I'm
glad I learned something.
Randy
On 10/04/2008, d.bridgehouse <d.bridgehouse@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi all - I would concur with Chris . In fact one member of the Crambus
> family ( Crambus laqueatellus in particular ) does have a flight time from
> April - July.
>
> Cheers , DB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:
> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]*On Behalf Of *Christopher Majka
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:39 AM
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture)
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> The photograph is rather blurry, however I'm 99% certain that this a
> pyralid in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially similar to
> caddis flies (Trichoptera), however, caddis flies do not have a projecting
> "horn" between the antennae (which is evident in Jeannie's photo). Also the
> pattern on the fore wings is characteristic of crambines. For instance take
> a look at some of the images on the URL below:
>
>
>
> http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Pyralidae/crambinae1.html
>
>
> Most of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very similar
> looking species. Some caddis flies do have maculation on their fore wings
> but the patterns are quite different than those one observes on members of
> the Crambinae.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Chris
>
> On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:05 AM, James W. Wolford wrote:
>
> Jeannie, your first photo might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth --
> comments from others? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Jeannie <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca>
> *Date: *April 10, 2008 7:02:57 AM ADT
> *To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Subject: **[NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture)*
> *Reply-To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
>
> I had my first moth and another night insect on April 5th.Here are the
> photos of both.They were taken at my cottage.
> http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2286690860025930195PLXdlb
> Jeannie Shermerhorn,Port Hawkesbury
>
>
> Cottage....Cape George,Cape Breton
>
>
> "Let us permit Nature to have her way; she understands her business better
> than we do." - Michel de Montaigne
> jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca
>
>
>
>
>
> Christopher Majka
> Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6
> c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Randy
_________________________________
RF Lauff
Way in the boonies of
Antigonish County, NS.
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<div>That snouty appendage did give me some pause in my original analysis...I'm glad I learned something.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Randy<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/04/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">d.bridgehouse</b> <d.bridgehouse@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Hi all - I would concur with Chris . In fact one member of the Crambus family ( Crambus laqueatellus in particular ) does have a flight time from April - July. </font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"></font></span> </div>
<div><span> <font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Cheers , DB</font></span></div>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="q">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Majka<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br></span>
<div><span class="e" id="q_11938fa41614f273_2"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture)<br><br></span></div></font></div>
<div><span class="e" id="q_11938fa41614f273_4">Hi Jim,
<div><br> </div>
<div>The photograph is rather blurry, however I'm 99% certain that this a pyralid in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially similar to caddis flies (Trichoptera), however, caddis flies do not have a projecting "horn" between the antennae (which is evident in Jeannie's photo). Also the pattern on the fore wings is characteristic of crambines. For instance take a look at some of the images on the URL below:</div>
<div><br> </div>
<div><font color="#000000">http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Pyralidae/crambinae1.html</font></div>
<div><br> </div>
<div>Most of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very similar looking species. Some caddis flies do have maculation on their fore wings but the patterns are quite different than those one observes on members of the Crambinae.</div>
<div><br> </div>
<div>Cheers!</div>
<div><br> </div>
<div>Chris</div>
<div><br>
<div>On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:05 AM, James W. Wolford wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">Jeannie, your first photo might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth -- comments from others? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville<br>
<div><br>
<div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3"><b>From: </b></font><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Jeannie <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca></font></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3"><b>Date: </b></font><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">April 10, 2008 7:02:57 AM ADT</font></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3"><b>To: </b></font><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</font></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3"><b>Subject: </b></font><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3"><b>[NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture)</b></font></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</font></div>
<div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br> </div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px">I had my first moth and another night insect on April 5th.Here are the photos of both.They were taken at my cottage.</div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px">http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2286690860025930195PLXdlb</div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px">Jeannie Shermerhorn,Port Hawkesbury</div>
<div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br> </div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px">Cottage....Cape George,Cape Breton</div>
<div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br> </div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px">"Let us permit Nature to have her way; she understands her business better than we do." - Michel de Montaigne</div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0px">jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca<span> </span></div></blockquote></div><br> </div></blockquote>
</div><br>
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<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">
<div>Christopher Majka</div>
<div>Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6</div>
<div>c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</div>
<div><br> </div></div><br></span></div><br> </div></span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Randy<br>_________________________________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.
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