[NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture)

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Hi all - I would concur with Chris . In fact one member of the Crambus
family ( Crambus laqueatellus  in particular ) does have a flight time from
April - July.

    Cheers , DB
  -----Original Message-----
  From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Christopher Majka
  Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:39 AM
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture)


  Hi Jim,


  The photograph is rather blurry, however I'm 99% certain that this a
pyralid in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially similar to
caddis flies (Trichoptera), however, caddis flies do not have a projecting
"horn" between the antennae (which is evident in Jeannie's photo). Also the
pattern on the fore wings is characteristic of crambines. For instance take
a look at some of the images on the URL below:



http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Pyralidae/cramb
inae1.html


  Most of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very similar
looking species. Some caddis flies do have maculation on their fore wings
but the patterns are quite different than those one observes on members of
the Crambinae.


  Cheers!


  Chris


  On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:05 AM, James W. Wolford wrote:

    Jeannie, your first photo might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth --
comments from others?  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville



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      From: Jeannie <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca>
      Date: April 10, 2008 7:02:57 AM ADT
      To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
      Subject: [NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture)
      Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca


      I had my first moth and another night insect on April 5th.Here are the
photos of both.They were taken at my cottage.
      http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2286690860025930195PLXdlb
      Jeannie Shermerhorn,Port Hawkesbury


      Cottage....Cape George,Cape Breton


      "Let us permit Nature to have her way; she understands her business
better than we do." - Michel de Montaigne
      jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca




  Christopher Majka
  Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada  B3H 3A6
  c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca






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  frist moth of 2008 (picture)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hi Jim,
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  pyralid in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially =
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  caddis flies (Trichoptera), however,&nbsp;caddis flies do not have a=20
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  <DIV>Most of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very =
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  <DIV>Cheers!</DIV>
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    your first photo might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth -- =
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    others?&nbsp; Cheers from Jim in Wolfville<BR>
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