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style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bo This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C89B02.A043D8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all - I would concur with Chris . In fact one member of the Crambus family ( Crambus laqueatellus in particular ) does have a flight time from April - July. Cheers , DB -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Christopher Majka Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:39 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture) Hi Jim, The photograph is rather blurry, however I'm 99% certain that this a pyralid in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially similar to caddis flies (Trichoptera), however, caddis flies do not have a projecting "horn" between the antennae (which is evident in Jeannie's photo). Also the pattern on the fore wings is characteristic of crambines. For instance take a look at some of the images on the URL below: http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Pyralidae/cramb inae1.html Most of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very similar looking species. Some caddis flies do have maculation on their fore wings but the patterns are quite different than those one observes on members of the Crambinae. Cheers! Chris On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:05 AM, James W. Wolford wrote: Jeannie, your first photo might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth -- comments from others? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville Begin forwarded message: From: Jeannie <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: April 10, 2008 7:02:57 AM ADT To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: [NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture) Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca I had my first moth and another night insect on April 5th.Here are the photos of both.They were taken at my cottage. http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2286690860025930195PLXdlb Jeannie Shermerhorn,Port Hawkesbury Cottage....Cape George,Cape Breton "Let us permit Nature to have her way; she understands her business better than we do." - Michel de Montaigne jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C89B02.A043D8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1498" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <DIV><SPAN class=3D610505614-10042008><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff>Hi all - I=20 would concur with Chris . In fact one member of the Crambus family ( = Crambus=20 laqueatellus in particular ) does have a flight time from April - = July.=20 </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D610505614-10042008><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D610505614-10042008> <FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff>Cheers , DB</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<B>On=20 Behalf Of </B>Christopher Majka<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 10, = 2008 10:39=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: = [NatureNS]=20 frist moth of 2008 (picture)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hi Jim, <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>The photograph is rather blurry, however I'm 99% certain that = this a=20 pyralid in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially = similar to=20 caddis flies (Trichoptera), however, caddis flies do not have a=20 projecting "horn" between the antennae (which is evident in Jeannie's = photo).=20 Also the pattern on the fore wings is characteristic of = crambines.=20 For instance take a look at some of the images on the URL below:</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT class=3DApple-style-span color=3D#000000><A=20 = href=3D"http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Pyra= lidae/crambinae1.html">http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/syste= matic_list/Pyralidae/crambinae1.html</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Most of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very = similar=20 looking species. Some caddis flies do have maculation on = their fore wings=20 but the patterns are quite different than those one observes on = members of=20 the Crambinae.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Cheers!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Chris</DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV>On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:05 AM, James W. Wolford wrote:<BR=20 class=3DApple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> <DIV=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = khtml-line-break: after-white-space">Jeannie,=20 your first photo might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth -- = comments from=20 others? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville<BR> <DIV><BR> <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR = class=3DApple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face=3DHelvetica = color=3D#000000=20 size=3D3><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica"=20 face=3DHelvetica size=3D3>Jeannie <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca">jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca</A>>= </FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face=3DHelvetica = color=3D#000000=20 size=3D3><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica"=20 face=3DHelvetica size=3D3>April 10, 2008 7:02:57 AM = ADT</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" face=3DHelvetica = color=3D#000000=20 size=3D3><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" = face=3DHelvetica=20