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Index of Subjects --Apple-Mail-461--253227995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim, The photograph is rather blurry, however I'm 99% certain that this a pyralid in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially similar to caddis flies (Trichoptera), however, caddis flies do not have a projecting "horn" between the antennae (which is evident in Jeannie's photo). Also the pattern on the fore wings is characteristic of crambines. For instance take a look at some of the images on the URL below: http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Pyralidae/crambinae1.html Most of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very similar looking species. Some caddis flies do have maculation on their fore wings but the patterns are quite different than those one observes on members of the Crambinae. Cheers! Chris On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:05 AM, James W. Wolford wrote: > Jeannie, your first photo might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth > -- comments from others? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Jeannie <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca> >> Date: April 10, 2008 7:02:57 AM ADT >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Subject: [NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 (picture) >> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> >> I had my first moth and another night insect on April 5th.Here are >> the photos of both.They were taken at my cottage. >> http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2286690860025930195PLXdlb >> Jeannie Shermerhorn,Port Hawkesbury >> >> Cottage....Cape George,Cape Breton >> >> "Let us permit Nature to have her way; she understands her business >> better than we do." - Michel de Montaigne >> jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca > Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca --Apple-Mail-461--253227995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Jim,<div><br></div><div>The = photograph is rather blurry, however I'm 99% certain that this a pyralid = in the subfamily Crambinae. These moths are superficially similar to = caddis flies (Trichoptera), however, caddis flies do not have a = projecting "horn" between the antennae (which is evident in Jeannie's = photo). Also the pattern on the fore wings = is characteristic of crambines. For instance take a look at = some of the images on the URL below:</div><div><br></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#000000"><a = href=3D"http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Pyral= idae/crambinae1.html">http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systema= tic_list/Pyralidae/crambinae1.html</a></font></div><div><br></div><div>Mos= t of these genera occur in Nova Scotia and we have some very similar = looking species. Some caddis flies do have maculation on their fore = wings but the patterns are quite different than those one observes on = members of = the Crambinae.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div><br></div><= div>Chris</div><div><br><div><html>On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:05 AM, James W. = Wolford wrote:</html><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: = space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Jeannie, your first photo = might well be a caddis fly, and not a moth -- comments from = others? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville<br><div><br><div>Begin = forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">Jeannie <<a = href=3D"mailto:jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca">jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></fo= nt></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">April 10, 2008 7:02:57 AM = ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>[NatureNS] frist moth of 2008 = (picture)</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">I had my first moth and another night insect on = April 5th.Here are the photos of both.They were taken at my = cottage.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a = href=3D"http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2286690860025930195PLXdlb">http= ://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2286690860025930195PLXdlb</a></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bo