[NatureNS] re: Pileated Woodpecker nomenclature

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Kent

Thanks for that.

A great explanation point and so very cleverly writen.=20

Tom K
Canso
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  From: Kent Mullin=20
  To: naturens=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:51 AM
  Subject: [NatureNS] re: Pileated Woodpecker nomenclature


  Overheard, as best I remember it, at a NAMA conference some time ago : =



  "Because English is the international language of science, or because =
the Americans and British are less open-minded about such things, =
mycologists from countries that don't speak english (under the duress of =
acceptability) have adopted latin pronunciation used by english speaking =
mycologists, though they probably wince inside every time. When not in =
the presence of english speaking mycologists, however, many continue =
pronounce the names in the way that they always have, as for example, =
"a-man-ee-ta", especially those mycologists from countries whose =
languages have a strong Latin root.=20


  Which prompted me to write:


  Dead And Buried In Time


  In order to prevent contention
  Someone authored this convention,
  When pronouncing latin we
  Must say it as it ought to be
  And it ought to be as were taught to say,
  Though we have no hint from that distant day.


  So really...


  Amaneeta, Amanighta,=20
  Who's to say which one is right-a.
  The Romans left us artifacts
  And fine examples of syntax
  In histories of conquered lands,
  From Britain's shores to Arab sands,
  But nothing relict of that nation
  Clues as to pronunciation.


  Yet we carry on, but I wonder somehow,
  What would a Roman think if he heard us now?




  Regards,
  K.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kent</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A great explanation point and so=20
very&nbsp;cleverly&nbsp;writen. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom K</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Canso</FONT></DIV>
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  Mullin</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] re: =
Pileated=20
  Woodpecker nomenclature</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Overheard,&nbsp;as best I remember it,&nbsp;at a NAMA=20
  conference some time ago :&nbsp;
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV>"Because English is the international language of science, or =
because the=20
  Americans and British are less open-minded about such things, =
mycologists from=20
  countries that don't speak english (under the duress of acceptability) =
have=20
  adopted latin pronunciation used by english speaking mycologists, =
though they=20
  probably wince inside every time. When not in the presence of english =
speaking=20
  mycologists, however, many continue pronounce the names in the way =
that they=20
  always have, as for example, "a-man-ee-ta", especially those =
mycologists from=20
  countries whose languages have a strong Latin root.=20
  <DIV><BR class=3Dwebkit-block-placeholder></DIV>
  <DIV>Which prompted me to write:</DIV>
  <DIV><BR class=3Dwebkit-block-placeholder></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 14px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D4><U><B>Dead And Buried In Time</B></U></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px =
Helvetica"><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>In order to prevent contention</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>Someone authored this convention,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>When pronouncing latin we</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>Must say it as it ought to be</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>And it ought to be as were taught to say,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>Though we have no hint from that distant day.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px =
Helvetica"><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>So really...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px =
Helvetica"><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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  size=3D3>Ama<I>neet</I>a, Ama<I>night</I>a,&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>Who's to say which one is right<I>-a.</I></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>The Romans left us artifacts</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>And fine examples of syntax</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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  size=3D3>In histories of conquered lands,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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  size=3D3>From Britain's shores to Arab sands,</FONT></DIV>
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face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>But nothing relict of that nation</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>Clues as to pronunciation.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px =
Helvetica"><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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  size=3D3>Yet we carry on, but I wonder somehow,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
face=3DHelvetica=20
  size=3D3>What would a Roman think if he heard us now?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><BR class=3Dwebkit-block-placeholder></DIV>
  <DIV><BR class=3Dwebkit-block-placeholder></DIV>
  <DIV>Regards,</DIV>
  <DIV>K.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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