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--Apple-Mail-1-1022411968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Overheard, as best I remember it, at a NAMA conference some time ago : "Because English is the international language of science, or because the Americans and British are less open-minded about such things, mycologists from countries that don't speak english (under the duress of acceptability) have adopted latin pronunciation used by english speaking mycologists, though they probably wince inside every time. When not in the presence of english speaking mycologists, however, many continue pronounce the names in the way that they always have, as for example, "a-man-ee-ta", especially those mycologists from countries whose languages have a strong Latin root. Which prompted me to write: Dead And Buried In Time In order to prevent contention Someone authored this convention, When pronouncing latin we Must say it as it ought to be And it ought to be as were taught to say, Though we have no hint from that distant day. So really... Amaneeta, Amanighta, Who's to say which one is right-a. The Romans left us artifacts And fine examples of syntax In histories of conquered lands, From Britain's shores to Arab sands, But nothing relict of that nation Clues as to pronunciation. Yet we carry on, but I wonder somehow, What would a Roman think if he heard us now? Regards, K. --Apple-Mail-1-1022411968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Overheard,=A0as best I remember = it,=A0at a NAMA conference some time ago :=A0<div><br><div>"Because = English is the international language of science, or because the = Americans and British are less open-minded about such things, = mycologists from countries that don't speak english (under the duress of = acceptability) have adopted latin pronunciation used by english speaking = mycologists, though they probably wince inside every time. When not in = the presence of english speaking mycologists, however, many continue = pronounce the names in the way that they always have, as for example, = "a-man-ee-ta", especially those mycologists from countries whose = languages have a strong Latin root. <div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Which prompted me = to write:</div><div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div= style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"4" style=3D"font: = 14.0px Helvetica"><u><b>Dead And Buried In Time</b></u></font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">In order = to prevent contention</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Someone = authored this convention,</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">When = pronouncing latin we</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Must say = it as it ought to be</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">And it = ought to be as were taught to say,</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Though we = have no hint from that distant day.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: = normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; = "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">So = really...</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">Ama<i>neet</i>a, Ama<i>night</i>a,=A0</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">Who's to say which one is = right<i>-a.</i></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">The Romans left us = artifacts</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">And fine examples of = syntax</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">In histories of conquered = lands,</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">=46rom Britain's shores to = Arab sands,</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">But nothing relict of that = nation</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Clues as to = pronunciation.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica"