[NatureNS] re ice trapping loons and other birds

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re ice trapping loons and other birdsI watched 3 crows pick apart a live BW Teal caught in ice in a lake along 101 near Stillwater - pretty gruesome.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Terri Crane 
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] re ice trapping loons and other birds


  Just as Jim mentioned about birds of prey setting up camp near these openings in the ice. So to di a mature Bauld Eagle set up camp over this loon. Making frequent dives at it adding to the stress and speeding up the weakening of this bird. I guess the only looser disapointed in this loon rescue was the Eagle.

  Tom K
  Canso




    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jim Wolford 
    To: NatureNS 
    Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:58 PM
    Subject: [NatureNS] re ice trapping loons and other birds


    I can add an ancient note to this subject:

    In my days in central Alberta, 35-40 years ago (yipe!!), in certain years similar phenomena occurred on lakes east of Edmonton, specifically Cooking and especially Hastings Lake, as I recall.  The advancing ice in late autumn would produce open holes of water that gradually became smaller and smaller, and always seemed to attract a variety of ducks, like scaups and goldeneyes etc.  These lakes were shallow and very productive, being full of amphipod crustaceans, larvae of midge flies, etc. etc.  These concentrations of small numbers of waterfowl also attracted predators, like bald eagles and newly-arrived snowy owls for the winter.  Such predators took advantage of these apparently easy-to-catch prey (weakening?).

    Cheers? from Jim in Wolfville
    ----------
    From: Terri Crane <terri.crane@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:31:45 -0400
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Labrador Loons (on Ice)

    Hi Richard & Brian

    This has indeed happened arround NS.In the Canso Area in Jan-Feb 2004 Stephen Bushell led a couple other guys in the sucessfull rescue of a doomed Common Loon. It was beleived to be the chick of a very late second nesting in our local Water Shed Lake. Only after the proper permition was given did the guys sucessfuly catch and then release the loon into Chedabucto Bay off the Fox Island beach. The following day the ever shrinking small opening in the lake was frozen over.

    Tom K.
    Canso





      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Richard Stern <mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com>  
      To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
      Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:27 PM
      Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Labrador Loons (on Ice)

      Hi,

      3 o4 years ago there was a story that ran for several days on CBC radio about someone rescuing a Loon in that situation from a partly frozen lake in NS. I forget the details, but perhaps someone else has them.

      Richard

      On 11/6/07, Brian Dalzell <dalzell@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: 

        Has anyone ever heard of loons staying on freshwater lakes too long into
        the fall and being (fatally) frozen in?  There are currently at least
        half a dozen (record late) lingering loons in Labrador City.  Each day
        the area of open water they are utilizing grows smaller.  One would
        assume they would leave before these areas gets too small (<100 meters
        long) to take off from, but who knows?





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      Port Williams, NS, Canada
      B0P 1T0

      rbstern@ns.sympatico.ca
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I watched 3 crows pick apart a live BW Teal caught 
in ice in a lake along 101 near Stillwater - pretty gruesome.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=terri.crane@ns.sympatico.ca 
  href="mailto:terri.crane@ns.sympatico.ca">Terri Crane</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:24 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] re ice trapping 
  loons and other birds</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just as Jim mentioned about&nbsp;birds of prey 
  setting up camp near these openings in the ice. So to di a mature Bauld Eagle 
  set up camp over this loon. Making frequent dives at it adding to the stress 
  and speeding up the weakening of this bird. I guess the only looser 
  disapointed in this loon rescue was the Eagle.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom K</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Canso</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=jimwolford@eastlink.ca href="mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">Jim 
    Wolford</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
    href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:58 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] re ice trapping 
    loons and other birds</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>I can add an ancient note to this subject:<BR><BR>In my days 
    in central Alberta, 35-40 years ago (yipe!!), in certain years similar 
    phenomena occurred on lakes east of Edmonton, specifically Cooking and 
    especially Hastings Lake, as I recall. &nbsp;The advancing ice in late 
    autumn would produce open holes of water that gradually became smaller and 
    smaller, and always seemed to attract a variety of ducks, like scaups and 
    goldeneyes etc. &nbsp;These lakes were shallow and very productive, being 
    full of amphipod crustaceans, larvae of midge flies, etc. etc. &nbsp;These 
    concentrations of small numbers of waterfowl also attracted predators, like 
    bald eagles and newly-arrived snowy owls for the winter. &nbsp;Such 
    predators took advantage of these apparently easy-to-catch prey 
    (weakening?).<BR><BR>Cheers? from Jim in Wolfville<BR>----------<BR><B>From: 
    </B>Terri Crane &lt;terri.crane@ns.sympatico.ca&gt;<BR><B>Reply-To: 
    </B>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Date: </B>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:31:45 
    -0400<BR><B>To: </B>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: 
    [NatureNS] Labrador Loons (on Ice)<BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>Hi 
    Richard &amp; Brian<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>This 
    has indeed happened arround NS.In the Canso Area in Jan-Feb 2004 Stephen 
    Bushell led a couple other guys in the sucessfull rescue of a doomed Common 
    Loon. It was beleived to be the chick of a very late second nesting in our 
    local Water Shed Lake. Only after the proper permition was given did the 
    guys sucessfuly catch and then release the loon into Chedabucto Bay off the 
    Fox Island beach. The following day the ever shrinking small opening in the 
    lake was frozen over.<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>Tom 
    K.<BR>Canso<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR><B>From:</B> Richard Stern 
      &lt;mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com&gt; &nbsp;<BR><B>To:</B> 
      naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:27 
      PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] Labrador Loons (on 
      Ice)<BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>3 o4 years ago there was a story that ran for 
      several days on CBC radio about someone rescuing a Loon in that situation 
      from a partly frozen lake in NS. I forget the details, but perhaps someone 
      else has them.<BR><BR>Richard<BR><BR>On 11/6/07, <B>Brian Dalzell</B> 
      &lt;dalzell@nbnet.nb.ca&gt; wrote: <BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE>Has anyone ever heard of loons staying on freshwater lakes 
        too long into<BR>the fall and being (fatally) frozen in? &nbsp;There are 
        currently at least<BR>half a dozen (record late) lingering loons in 
        Labrador City. &nbsp;Each day<BR>the area of open water they are 
        utilizing grows smaller. &nbsp;One would<BR>assume they would leave 
        before these areas gets too small (&lt;100 meters<BR>long) to take off 
        from, but who knows?<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>-- 
      <BR>#################<BR>Richard Stern, <BR>317 Middle Dyke Rd.<BR>Port 
      Williams, NS, Canada<BR>B0P 
      1T0<BR><BR>rbstern@ns.sympatico.ca<BR>rbstern@xcountry.tv<BR>sternrichard@gmail.com<BR>################### 
      <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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