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Index of Subjects ------=_Part_49416_13966080.1190639880003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Probably everyone "here" knows this but just in case, letting bees sting you could have serious consequences -- if you are allergic and don't know it -- my father was, and knew it, and carried a kit; my nephew was, and didn't know it, and had to be rushed to the hospital... On 9/24/07, c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Hi Ulli, > > Oh boy, I can't wait to try this! :-> > > > It reminds me of the advice that forest rangers used to give people out > west about how to differentiate between a black bear and a grizzly: "Throw a > rock at the bear and when it chases you climb a tree. If it follows you, > it's a black bear. If it doesn't, it's a grizzly." Another illustration of > "learning reinforced by punishment" although in this case the duration of > the learning might be rather short, given that the life of the student might > be somewhat attenuated. > > > Oh well, live (at least for a short interval) and learn! :-> > > > Cheers, > > > Chris > > On 24-Sep-07, at 9:19 AM, Ulli Hoeger wrote: > > A simple test to discriminate between honey bees (Apis mellifera) and > other similar looking species is to let them sting. If the stinger with > venom bladder and some other tissue (muscle and nerve) is left behind by the > bee in your skin and needs to be pulled out it was a honey bee worker, if no > stinger is left behind it wasn't a honey bee that stung you. Many of the > solitary bees are not capable of penetrating the human skin, no harm done. > Bumble bees can and will, and it hurts a lot. > This method works, trust me, and as a side effect you will learn quickly > to recognize honey bees by looking at them (I think that's referred to as > learning reinforced by punishment) > > Ulli > > > > ------------------------------ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48224/*http://sims.yahoo.com/> > > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ > > Christopher Majka <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> > > Electronic Resources on Coleoptera, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada > > http://chebucto.ca/Environment/NHR/coleoptera.html > > > "Whenever I hear of the capture of rare beetles, I feel like > > an old warhorse at the sound of a trumpet" - Charles Darwin > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ > > > ------=_Part_49416_13966080.1190639880003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>Probably everyone "here" knows this but just in case, letting bees sting you could have serious consequences -- if you are allergic and don't know it -- my father was, and knew it, and carried a kit; my nephew was, and didn't know it, and had to be rushed to the hospital... </div> <div> </div> <div><br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: </span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">Hi Ulli, <div><br> </div> <div>Oh boy, I can't wait to try this! :-></div> <div><br> </div> <div>It reminds me of the advice that forest rangers used to give people out west about how to differentiate between a black bear and a grizzly: "Throw a rock at the bear and when it chases you climb a tree. If it follows you, it's a black bear. If it doesn't, it's a grizzly." Another illustration of "learning reinforced by punishment" although in this case the duration of the learning might be rather short, given that the life of the student might be somewhat attenuated. </div> <div><br> </div> <div>Oh well, live (at least for a short interval) and learn! :-></div> <div><br> </div> <div>Cheers,</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Chris</div> <div> <div><span class="e" id="q_11537a6d0e7ea304_1"><br> <div> <div>On 24-Sep-07, at 9:19 AM, Ulli Hoeger wrote:</div><br> <blockquote type="cite">A simple test to discriminate between honey bees (Apis mellifera) and other similar looking species is to let them sting. If the stinger with venom bladder and some other tissue (muscle and nerve) is left behind by the bee in your skin and needs to be pulled out it was a honey bee worker, if no stinger is left behind it wasn't a honey bee that stung you. Many of the solitary bees are not capable of penetrating the human skin, no harm done. Bumble bees can and will, and it hurts a lot. <br>This method works, trust me, and as a side effect you will learn quickly to recognize honey bees by looking at them (I think that's referred to as learning reinforced by punishment)<br><br>Ulli<br><br> <div><br> </div> <hr size="1"> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48224/*http://sims.yahoo.com/" target="_blank">Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. </a></blockquote></div><br></span></div> <div> <p style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Times" face="Times" size="3">_._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._</font></p> <p style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Times" face="Times" size="3">Christopher Majka <span> </span><<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca" target="_blank"> c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></font></p> <p style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Times" face="Times" size="3">Electronic Resources on Coleoptera,