[NatureNS] Do honeybees and bumblebees mix?

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Probably everyone "here" knows this but just in case, letting bees sting you
could have serious consequences -- if you are allergic and don't know it --
my father was, and knew it, and carried a kit; my nephew was, and didn't
know it, and had to be rushed to the hospital...




On 9/24/07, c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Ulli,
>
> Oh boy, I can't wait to try this! :->
>
>
> It reminds me of the advice that forest rangers used to give people out
> west about how to differentiate between a black bear and a grizzly: "Throw a
> rock at the bear and when it chases you climb a tree. If it follows you,
> it's a black bear. If it doesn't, it's a grizzly." Another illustration of
> "learning reinforced by punishment" although in this case the duration of
> the learning might be rather short, given that the life of the student might
> be somewhat attenuated.
>
>
> Oh well, live (at least for a short interval) and learn! :->
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Chris
>
>  On 24-Sep-07, at 9:19 AM, Ulli Hoeger wrote:
>
> A simple test to discriminate between honey bees (Apis mellifera) and
> other similar looking species is to let them sting.  If the stinger with
> venom bladder and some other tissue (muscle and nerve) is left behind by the
> bee in your skin and needs to be pulled out it was a honey bee worker, if no
> stinger is left behind it wasn't a honey bee that stung you.  Many of the
> solitary bees are not capable of penetrating the human skin, no harm done.
> Bumble bees can and will, and it hurts a lot.
> This method works, trust me, and as a side effect you will learn quickly
> to recognize honey bees by looking at them  (I think that's referred to as
> learning reinforced by punishment)
>
> Ulli
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<div>Probably everyone &quot;here&quot; knows this but just in case, letting bees sting you could have serious consequences -- if you are allergic and don&#39;t know it -- my father was, and knew it, and carried a kit; my nephew was, and didn&#39;t know it, and had to be rushed to the hospital... 
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca&gt; wrote:
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<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">Hi Ulli, 
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Oh boy, I can&#39;t wait to try this! :-&gt;</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>It reminds me of the advice that forest rangers used to give people out west about how to differentiate between a black bear and a grizzly: &quot;Throw a rock at the bear and when it chases you climb a tree. If it follows you, it&#39;s a black bear. If it doesn&#39;t, it&#39;s a grizzly.&quot; Another illustration of &quot;learning reinforced by punishment&quot; although in this case the duration of the learning might be rather short, given that the life of the student might be somewhat attenuated.
</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Oh well, live (at least for a short interval) and learn! :-&gt;</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Chris</div>
<div>
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<div>On 24-Sep-07, at 9:19 AM, Ulli Hoeger wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">A simple test to discriminate between honey bees (Apis mellifera) and other similar looking species is to let them sting.&nbsp; If the stinger with venom bladder and some other tissue (muscle and nerve) is left behind by the bee in your skin and needs to be pulled out it was a honey bee worker, if no stinger is left behind it wasn&#39;t a honey bee that stung you.&nbsp; Many of the solitary bees are not capable of penetrating the human skin, no harm done.&nbsp; Bumble bees can and will, and it hurts a lot.
<br>This method works, trust me, and as a side effect you will learn quickly to recognize honey bees by looking at them&nbsp; (I think that&#39;s referred to as learning reinforced by punishment)<br><br>Ulli<br><br>
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<p style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Times" face="Times" size="3">Electronic Resources on Coleoptera,