[NatureNS] Do honeybees and bumblebees mix?

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Hi Ulli,

Oh boy, I can't wait to try this! :->

It reminds me of the advice that forest rangers used to give people  
out west about how to differentiate between a black bear and a  
grizzly: "Throw a rock at the bear and when it chases you climb a  
tree. If it follows you, it's a black bear. If it doesn't, it's a  
grizzly." Another illustration of "learning reinforced by punishment"  
although in this case the duration of the learning might be rather  
short, given that the life of the student might be somewhat attenuated.

Oh well, live (at least for a short interval) and learn! :->

Cheers,

Chris

On 24-Sep-07, at 9:19 AM, Ulli Hoeger wrote:

> A simple test to discriminate between honey bees (Apis mellifera)  
> and other similar looking species is to let them sting.  If the  
> stinger with venom bladder and some other tissue (muscle and nerve)  
> is left behind by the bee in your skin and needs to be pulled out  
> it was a honey bee worker, if no stinger is left behind it wasn't a  
> honey bee that stung you.  Many of the solitary bees are not  
> capable of penetrating the human skin, no harm done.  Bumble bees  
> can and will, and it hurts a lot.
> This method works, trust me, and as a side effect you will learn  
> quickly to recognize honey bees by looking at them  (I think that's  
> referred to as learning reinforced by punishment)
>
> Ulli
>
>
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your  
> story.
> Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

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Christopher Majka                       <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca>
Electronic Resources on Coleoptera, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
http://chebucto.ca/Environment/NHR/coleoptera.html

"Whenever I hear of the capture of rare beetles, I feel like
an old warhorse at the sound of a trumpet"  - Charles Darwin
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Hi Ulli,<div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Oh boy, I =
can't wait to try this! :-&gt;</div><div><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>It reminds me of the =
advice that forest rangers used to give people out west about how to =
differentiate between a black bear and a grizzly: "Throw a rock at the =
bear and when it chases you climb a tree. If it follows you, it's a =
black bear. If it doesn't, it's a grizzly." Another illustration of =
"learning reinforced by punishment" although in this case the duration =
of the learning might be rather short, given that the life of the =
student might be somewhat attenuated.</div><div><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Oh well, live (at least =
for a short interval) and learn! :-&gt;</div><div><br =
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