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--Apple-Mail-27-845721403 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello everyone: I have started making up a list of the new birds that I saw while on vacation in Ireland. Two of the books that I purchased and took with me were "The Compelete Guide to Ireland's Birds" by Dempsey and O'Cleary and Collins "The Most Complete Field Guide to the Birds of Britain and Europe" by Mullarney, Zetterstrom, Svensson, and Grant. The first book is rather interesting as all of their common birds are our vagrants, and vice versa! Now that I am home, I am matching up my pictures (and notes for birds for which I did not get a picture) and was quite surprised with one of the first birds I saw, the swallow. The Irish bird book identifies it simply as "swallow". The Collins book calls them "barn swallows". I was trying to determine how to put this on my list (I would have thought that ours would be called "American barn swallow" so I decided to look up "our" barn swallow in my Peterson, and both birds are the same Hirundo rustica. That is despite the fact that ours have an orangish face, no band across the breast and a yellowish-orange breast while the ones in Europe have a red face, black bib, and a white breast. Collins does illustrate two subspecies of the barn swallow: transitiva and savignii (the former being in the eastern Mediterranean and being reddish-buff below; the latter being found in Egypt and being deep rusty-red below. They do not mention our version at all, not even in the accidental section. For those of you who keep lists, if you have seen both birds how have you recorded them? Pat ======================================================================== == Patrick Kelly Director of Computer Facilities ======================================================================== == Faculty of Architecture and Planning Dalhousie University ======================================================================== == PO Box 1000 Stn Central 5410 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2X4 Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2X4 Canada Canada ======================================================================== == Phone:(902) 494-3294 FAX:(902) 423-6672 E-mail:patrick.kelly@dal.ca ======================================================================== == --Apple-Mail-27-845721403 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hello everyone: I have started making up a list of the new birds that I saw while on vacation in Ireland. Two of the books that I purchased and took with me were "The Compelete Guide to Ireland's Birds" by Dempsey and O'Cleary and Collins "The Most Complete Field Guide to the Birds of Britain and Europe" by Mullarney, Zetterstrom, Svensson, and Grant. The first book is rather interesting as all of their common birds are our vagrants, and vice versa! Now that I am home, I am matching up my pictures (and notes for birds for which I did not get a picture) and was quite surprised with one of the first birds I saw, the swallow. The Irish bird book identifies it simply as "swallow". The Collins book calls them "barn swallows". I was trying to determine how to put this on my list (I would have thought that ours would be called "American barn swallow" so I decided to look up "our" barn swallow in my Peterson, and both birds are the same <italic>Hirundo rustica</italic>. That is despite the fact that ours have an orangish face, no band across the breast and a yellowish-orange breast while the ones in Europe have a red face, black bib, and a white breast. Collins does illustrate two subspecies of the barn swallow: <italic>transitiva</italic> and <italic>savignii </italic>(the former being in the eastern Mediterranean and being reddish-buff below; the latter being found in Egypt and being deep rusty-red below. They do not mention our version at all, not even in the accidental section. For those of you who keep lists, if you have seen both birds how have you recorded them? Pat <fontfamily><param>Courier</param> ========================================================================== Patrick Kelly Director of Computer Facilities ========================================================================== Faculty of Architecture and Planning Dalhousie University ========================================================================== PO Box 1000 Stn Central 5410 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2X4 Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2X4 Canada Canada ========================================================================== Phone:(902) 494-3294 FAX:(902) 423-6672 E-mail:patrick.kelly@dal.ca ========================================================================== </fontfamily> --Apple-Mail-27-845721403--
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