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Index of Subjects --Apple-Mail-316-148460885 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi folks, Several of us at the NS Museum have been working on the determination of this fish (from Carter's Beach near Port Mouton) and the jury is still out. It may well be a juvenile Buckler Dory, Zenopsis conchifera (Lowe, 1852) but other species of Dory (there are ~ 10 species described worldwide) have not yet been excluded. The Red Dory, Cyttopsis roseus (Lowe, 1843), has also been recorded recently in Atlantic Canadian waters. I have mounted cropped and slightly enhanced versions of Joyce's photographs at: http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/Images4/ Zenopsis_conchifera-1.jpg http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/Images4/ Zenopsis_conchifera-2.jpg Scott and Scott (1988) in Atlantic Fishes of Canada report eight Canadian specimens collected on Browns, LaHave, and Sable Island banks as well as found in traps and washed up at Fox Point, NS, and at Campobello Island and Gannet Rock (near Grand Manan), in NB. They are a schooling, mesopelagic species (100-400 m) that normally occur near the edge of the continental shelf in the North Atlantic from Sable Island south to North Carolina. Rather little is known about their biology, ecology, growth or reproduction. They appear to spawn in February and adults can grow to 61 cm and weigh up to 3.17 kg. They are predaceous and feed on other pelagic fish and squid. I should have more information on Friday when John Gilhen gets back from fieldwork and we can examine preserved specimens which we have here at the Museum. I'll keep you posted. Best wishes, Chris On 2-Aug-06, at 4:47 PM, Bernard Burke wrote: > Hi All. > Joyce Norris sent me a couple of good photos of the fish she was > inquiring about, and after a quick look in my "McClane's Field > Guide to Saltwater Fishes of North America" (1978) I came up with a > fish called AMERICAN JOHN DORY (Zenopsis ocellata) that appears to > be a good match. Here's a link that I was able to find with a > photo,though the fish is not displayed as good as hers. Neat > looking find: http://www.thejump.net/id/johndory.htm > Hope this helps. > Cheers > Bernard Burke > blburke@ns.sympatico.ca > Dartmouth _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. _. Christopher Majka - Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History 1747 Summer Street, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 (902) 424-6435 Email <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. _. --Apple-Mail-316-148460885 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi folks,<DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">Several of us at the NS Museum have been = working on the determination of this fish (from Carter's Beach near Port = Mouton) and the jury is still out.=A0It may well be a juvenile Buckler = Dory, <I>Zenopsis conchifera</I> (Lowe, 1852) but other species of Dory = (there are ~ 10 species described worldwide) have not yet been excluded. = The Red Dory, <I>Cyttopsis </I><I>roseus</I> (Lowe, 1843), has also been = recorded recently in Atlantic Canadian waters.</SPAN></DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">I have mounted cropped and slightly enhanced = versions of Joyce's photographs at:</DIV><P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px = 0.0px 0.0px">=A0</P><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A = href=3D"http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/Images4/Zenopsis_conchif= era-1.jpg">http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/Images4/Zenopsis_conc= hifera-1.jpg</A></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A = href=3D"http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/Images4/Zenopsis_conchif= era-2.jpg">http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/Images4/Zenopsis_conc= hifera-2.jpg</A></DIV><P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px = 0.0px">=A0=A0</P><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Scott and Scott (1988) in = Atlantic Fishes of Canada report eight Canadian specimens collected on = Browns, LaHave, and Sable Island banks as well as found in traps and = washed up at Fox Point, NS, and at Campobello Island and Gannet Rock = (near Grand Manan), in NB. They are a schooling, mesopelagic species = (100-400 m) that normally occur near the edge of the continental shelf = in the North Atlantic from Sable Island south to North Carolina.=A0Rather = little is known about their biology, ecology, growth or reproduction. = They appear to spawn in February and adults can grow to 61 cm and weigh = up to 3.17 kg. They are predaceous and feed on other pelagic fish and = squid.=A0</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I should have = more information on Friday when John Gilhen gets back from fieldwork and = we can examine preserved specimens which we have here at the Museum. = I'll keep you posted.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Best = wishes,</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">Chris</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 2-Aug-06, at 4:47 PM, Bernard Burke = wrote:</DIV><BR class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE = type=3D"cite"> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN = class=3D"258233919-02082006">Hi All.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT = face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"258233919-02082006">Joyce = Norris sent me a couple of good photos of the fish she was inquiring = about, and after a quick look in my "McClane's Field Guide to Saltwater = Fishes of North America" (1978) I came up with