Please just fix the colours! (Was: proposed changes to the CCN template)

Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:23:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Douglas J. McCann" <aa935@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Donna Randell <drandell@chebucto.ns.ca>
cc: Bob Adams <bobadams@ns.sympatico.ca>, Johnathan Thibodeau <am341@chebucto.ns.ca>, "David L. Potter" <potter@chebucto.ns.ca>,
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Hi Donna

There are several reported problems with the new template,
including colours choices. There are quick solutions that could be
implemented, but they may not be satisfactory to all members and users.
The on-line discussion allows all those interested to voice their concerns
and solutions. Given that we are in a vacation period, the process has
been slower than normal.

Doug McCann

  



On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Donna Randell wrote:

> Gentlemen:
> 
> I first brought up the colour issue shortly after the change was made and was assured that
> steps would be taken to correct it as you had received many complaints re: difficulty using
> the new pages.  I wrote as a Chebucto Member - not representing NGB -although it happens to
> be a site I use frequently and am involved with.  Do not presume that I represent that
> site.
> 
> BUT as a Chebucto Member I complained about colour choices that are less than satisfactory
> to me.  The old set-up of the Chebucto pages worked just fine- for me -but the change
> doesn't. I will also point out that you requested me to help work on new colour choices.
> Shortly before I left for vacation (three weeks ago) I was given the impression that this
> matter was resolved.
> 
> Now that being said - I - as a Chebucto Member - who was assured a successful conclusion of
> this matter - request that you set aside all the technical verbiage and simply do the
> necessary tweaking of codes needed to make the colouring of the links work.  The solution
> seems to appear in Andrew's letter following - or in the letter from Bob.
> 
> I sincerely hope this matter is resolved shortly. The problem has been clearly defined,
> discussed and solutions have been offered which were found to work.  I simply cannot
> understand what is the hold up!
> 
> Please just fix the colours!
> Donna Randell
> 
> Subject:
>             Re: Proposed change to CCN template
>        Date:
>             Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:25:59 -0300
>       From:
>             Donna Randell <drandell@chebucto.ns.ca>
>         To:
>             "Andrew D. Wright" <adw@chebucto.ns.ca>
>         CC:
>             ccn-webmaster@chebucto.ns.ca, aa935@chebucto.ns.ca
>  References:
>             1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> YES!!!!!  THIS WORKS FOR ME!!!  High contrast - and everyone can choose
> colours that work
> for them - In my case red.
> 
> Thank you Andrew and all for working through this problem.  I do appreciate
> all you do at
> Chebucto.  And even more so now that things can work again for me,  I hope
> this can go into
> place soon!
> 
> THANK YOU!!!!!
> Smiles!
> Donna Randell
> 
> "Andrew D. Wright" wrote:
> 
> >         Try http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~awright/test/recent2.htm. This one
> > does not specify a visited link color at all, using whatever your browser
> > defaults to for the visited link color. On my copies of Netscape and
> > Internet Explorer, this comes out as purple.
> >
> > On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Donna Randell wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew and all,
> > >
> > > Yes I can see a difference with the new version - barely.  I am sorry
> but pastel
> > > shades are my weakness.  Again - I have never been classified as colour
> blind but
> > > strong or vivid colours work for me.  Now as a woman I understand your
> trying to
> > > colour co-ordinate the page..... so could you use that pale green to
> indicate tried
> > > links.....  In my humble opinion it's something like that or using
> stronger colours -
> > > like the brighter green in the Chebucto Logo......
> > >
> > > Smiles!
> > > Donna
> > >
> > > "Andrew D. Wright" wrote:
> > >
> > > >         Hi Donna. I've read your comments about having difficulty
> with the
> > > > visited link color on our new webpages and have prepared two test
> pages
> > > > for your viewing. Both are identical copies of the Recently Changed
> > > > Documents page from a few minutes ago.
> > > >
> > > >         The first is the standard version in effect now and uses the
> > > > present visited link color. The second is a version which uses a grey
> > > > color instead of the different shade of green. Could you please take
> a
> > > > look at them and tell me if the new page is better than the old for
> > > > telling what are the visited links? Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > The two pages are here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~awright/test/recent.htm
> > > >
> > > > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~awright/test/recent1.htm
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 aa935@chebucto.ns.ca wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would suggest bringing in Donna Randell and others into the
> discussion. Donna
> > > > > would provide a more expert opinion regarding colour contrast. She
> is from a
> > > > > group of users that are experiencing difficulties with the new
> template. The
> > > > > other editors can provide alternative solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Editors: to participate, subscribe to ccn-webmaster. Also, see
> > > > > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Chebucto/webmaster/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug McCann
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Adams wrote:
> 
> > The CGI-generated page Donna Randell refers to (and needs) mistakenly
> > spits out two colors for link and vlink that are both almost black.
> >    link="#Oc6c87" vlink="#004d46">
> > On most old monitors it will likely look like both are indeed black. I
> > can't imagine that was the intention.
> >
> > Changing one character in the the vlink (the first) to  vlink="#F04d46">
> > results in a bright red. The link itself should be a conventional blue.
> >
> > Then those doing serious genealogical research would clearly see which
> > lines are links (blue), and which of those 300+ inks (blue) they have
> > already visited (red). It would save them an enormous amount of time and