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The problem with your 'radical' ideas is not that they lack value but rather that you continue to try and ram them down people's thoats without giving those affected an opportunity to consider the proposal and either concur or offer suggestions as appropriate. Arriving at the tech meeting and announcing that the text homepage would suddenly be changed without consultation with the editors or the CCN dial-up users who rely on that page for access is an act of arrogance that is unwanted in volunteers and an abuse of your position as a board member. No matter how good your ideas, they are being presented in an unacceptable manner. While the arguments you offer in support of these proposals have some basis, there are often several possible solutions to the 'problem' at hand and usually several opinions as to the severity of the problem. In addition you repeatedly seem to assume that you know everything that is worth knowing about the CCN systems and functionality. It is very clear that you don't and further that you are disinclined to ask. Each of these forrays into areas that are not your personal responsibility as a board memeber, undertaken without consulting with and winning the support of users, volunteers and other boardmembers who have an intererest in these matters places you in a conflict of interest. david potter On Wed, 31 May 2000, Andrew D. Wright wrote: > > The new browsers get the new home page. Many, many, many more new > browsers access our site than anything else. The redirect should go to the > older home page. Anything that doesn't call itself Mozilla/4.0 or better > should be redirected to the current text home page. > > Lower level browsers can generate errors because they don't like > the JavaScript in the new graphic home page that makes the on-page webmail > input work. As has been stated repeatedly, the new page template in use on > the rest of Chebucto has been tested extensively and does not generate > page errors. > > The notion for the changing of the text home page was in light of > two things: > > (1) There is no room on the current text based home page for > anything else. To add anything more to it is have it occupy more than one > screen of a Lynx browser in 'Novice' mode. The new graphics home page will > have area set aside for special events notices or the like. It would be > nice to be able to give text users comparable functionality. > > (2) The alphabetical list of IPs is a great way to go straight to > the site you're looking for in one hop. In the few days since completing > this list I have found it a vast improvement not only when looking for a > specific site, but as a way to browse the other sites on CCN. It's hard to > ken that no one ever thought of this. Putting this functionality onto the > existing text home page is a good idea, which means making room. > > The theme I see repeated here is no room. Replacing 7 links with 2 > frees up quite a bit of space. Anyone who finds their IP by subject can > still do so, albeit with one more hop; there's room on the page for the > special notices being given on the graphic home page and there's a nice > easy way to navigate to a group's site. > > You want to see some more radical ideas? I'm just brimming with > them. We can lose two more links off the text home page and get even more > room. Since there's links to it from every new format CCN page and it is > good for graphics only anyway, we don't need the Site Map link. The Reseau > communautaire link can go too as this part of the CCN site has not been > maintained in years, has fallen into disrepair and no one is about to edit > it. > > With all this space, the text-version home page format can even be > revised to (shudder) look good on Lynx as well as provide additional > functionality. > > Or we could just leave things the way they are. Nothing ever has > to change when it is all perfect to begin with, right? > > > On Tue, 30 May 2000, David L. Potter wrote: > > > > > As I understand it the new browsers get the brand-new homepage... some of > > the first/second generation browsers apparently have problems with the > > new page(s... is it just the new homepage or all the shtml pages????) and > > should get an older version... > > > > Andrew is keen on changing the existing homepage... removing the subject > > links and substituting links to the new alphabetical and subject > > listings. If some browsers are having problems with the new homepage I > > would expect them to have similar trouble with the new alpha/subject > > pages but maybe I'm missing something... > > > > I definitely would like to keep the old homepage for our dial-up text > > users until we can determine what _they_ would like done with the > > homepage... this may mean keeping three homepages alive for awhile or > > maybe simply leaving the current homepage alone and feeding the new > > homepage to browsers that can handle it... > > > > I've ccreated a couple of new Lynx shortcuts that point to the new > > alpha/subject pages and I've got a notice up in the motd refering people > > to these pages and asking for any comments to be sent to editors... > > > > david potter > > > > > > > > On Tue, 30 May 2000, Michael Smith wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 30 May 2000, David L. Potter wrote: > > > > > > > Andrew should be ready to go with the new homepage by tomorrow night. > > > > > > > > He's still making a couple of changes and will confirm when he's ready > > > > for the redirect. > > > > > > OK. What exactly are we redirecting? Lynx users to the old homepage? > > > > > >
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