cfn change

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:32:08 -0400 (AST)
From: "David L. Potter" <potter@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: "Norman L. DeForest" <af380@chebucto.ns.ca>
cc: Christopher Majka <nextug@IS.Dal.Ca>, Jane Kansas <as300@chebucto.ns.ca>, CCN Userhelp <userhelp@chebucto.ns.ca>, ccn-ip@chebucto.ns.ca
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Let's not invest ANY time in submitting/re-submitting listings to 
search engines until we get CCN cleaned up... we run the risk of making 
things worse...

david potter


On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Norman L. DeForest wrote:

> 
> It might also be worth using some of the special features of the search
> engines to look for sites with specific links.  To look for links to
> "ccn.cs.dal.ca/~af380" (as a totally random example) that are NOT on CCN,
> the syntax for AltaVista in the Advanced Search page would be
> 
>    link:ccn.cs.dal.ca/~af380 AND NOT url:ccn.cs.dal.ca
> 
> A search on 
> 
>    link:ccn.cs.dal.ca/Culture/HarperLee/ AND NOT  url:ccn.cs.dal.ca
> 
> http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&amp;text=yes&amp;kl=XX&amp;r=&amp;act=search&amp;q=link%3Accn.cs.dal.ca%2FCulture%2FHarperLee%2F+AND+NOT%0a+url%3Accn.cs.dal.ca&amp;d0=&amp;d1=
> 
> finds this page:
> 
> "Chris Bohjalian - Burlington Vermont - Date: 11/02/98"
> http://burlingtonvt.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa110298.htm
> 
> Link [29] on the page uses the "ccn.cs.dal.ca" domain to link to the
> Harper Lee page.  You might want to drop the webmaster a line.
> 
> 
> A search for sites that use explicit "cfn" or "ccn" URLs finds almost
> fifteen hundred of them listed on AltaVista alone and any visitor that
> uses those links and then follows relative URLs on the ccn/cfn pages and
> bookmarks anything will also be using the old domains in their bookmarks.
> 
> http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&text=yes&kl=XX&r=&act=search&q=link%3Acfn.cs.dal.ca+AND%0a+NOT+url%3Acfn.cs.dal.ca&d0=&d1=
> 
>    Enter boolean expression:
>    
>    link:cfn.cs.dal.ca AND NOT url:cfn.cs.dal.ca______
> 
>    AltaVista found about 6639 Web pages for you. 
>       
> http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&text=yes&kl=XX&r=&act=search&q=link%3Accn.cs.dal.ca+AND++NOT+url%3Accn.cs.dal.ca&d0=&d1=
>    
>    Enter boolean expression:
>    
>    link:ccn.cs.dal.ca AND NOT url:ccn.cs.dal.ca______
> 
>    AltaVista found about 8077 Web pages for you. 
>    
> 
> On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Christopher Majka wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jane!
> > 
> > On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, David L. Potter wrote:
> > 
> > > Probably by someone linking to your site and using cfn/ccn in the link. 
> > > We're going to actively 'encourage' the search engines to re-index using the 
> > > proper address... we're not going to turn off the old address until we're 
> > > satisfied that we're not going to cause a significant loss of access.
> > > 
> > > david potter
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Jane Kansas wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi Although I have never used 'cfn' I see that my IP site is listed in 
> > > > some search engine results with 'cfn'... how did that conversion take 
> > > > place? Will those listings be dead ends? Thanks for your time.  
> > 
> > One thing you can (and I would) do is  to do some searches on several
> > search engines looking for Harper Lee:
> > 
> > I just did the following with Alta Vista, Look Smart, Netscape, Excite,
> > Infoseek & Lycos and found the following:
> > 
> > *www.chebucto.ns.ca*
> > 
> > Lycos
> > 
> > Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird <DL Harper Lee Biography (Yes, Miss Lee
> > is still alive.) Contains information about
> > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Culture/HarperLee/ 
> > 
> > *www.ccn.cs.dal.ca*
> > 
> > Alta Vista
> > 
> > Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird
> > Biography of Miss Lee and information on her novel. Links to other
> > Mockingbird sites. List of further readings.
> > URL: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/Culture/HarperLee/
> > Last modified 16-Sep-98 - page size 4K - in English [ Translate ]
> > 
> > LookSmart
> > 
> > Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird
> > Biography of Miss Lee and information on her novel. Links to other
> > Mockingbird sites. List of further readings. Size 4K - 16-Sep-98
> > http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/Culture/HarperLee
> > 
> > *www.cfn.cs.dal.ca*
> > 
> > Netscape
> > 
> > 71% Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird  
> > URL: http://www.cfn.cs.dal.ca/cfn/Culture/HarperLee/ 
> > Summary: Biography of Miss Lee and information on her novel. Links to
> > other Mockingbird sites. List of further readings. 
> > 
> > Excite
> > 
> > 71% Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird  - Biography of Miss Lee and
> > information on her novel. Links to other Mockingbird sites. List of
> > further readings. http://www.cfn.cs.dal.ca/cfn/Culture/HarperLee/ 
> > 
> > *no listing*
> > 
> > Infoseek
> > 
> > Ergo, you should submit your URL and get listed! ;->
> > 
> > This indicates that most search engines (with the exception of Lycos) have
> > your pages listed via either old URL. Most of these (and other) search
> > engines have a mechanism whereby you can submit ammendments or corrections
> > to listings so I would go there and get them to update their indicies.
> > 
> > Ciao!
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._.
> > Christopher Majka                               <aa051@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Editor-in-Chief: Chebucto Community Net - Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
> > URL = http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Home.html
> > 
> > "We have ... in this country ... far too many captive editors who cannot 
> > even be heard to rattle their chains."              -- Carl E. Lindstrom
> > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._.
> > 
> > 
> 
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