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because they really don't have the knowledge to admin > Granted, but we're not there yet. And, even once high-end 486's / > low-end Pentiums become give away items, it will still take a couple of > years for them to get into the hands of the majority of people that > can't afford to buy them. Also, given that these machines are still > useful for many things, some people may keep them as a second machine. 386s and C=64s are also still useful for many things. The QNX demo disk only needs a 386, a modem, and a vga card and it gives you a ppp dialer and a web browser. > Then why do you bother? Anyways, I'm going to have to disagree. > Community nets provide several things, including local content, a way You can access that from elsewhere. > to associate with local users (i.e. strictly local newsgroups), a That proably are not on your machine. You can access them from elsewhere. > gentle introduction to the Internet, amongst other things. Many people I dont think so. Scrool, point a the underlined word and click. Lynx is not gentle. > } More complex? SQL would be far less complex, and more easily > expanded on. > > A real database program is more complex to setup and maintain then > a bunch of text files. I supose it depends on how you look at it. With a SQL database, thats some one elses problem, to a programer it may as whell just be a magic box. Sufficently advanced technology is indistingushable from magic.. > If they don't have at least some technical experience, they aren't > going to be doing this no matter how easy we make it. For most > community nets the capability just simply isn't there. That's why > CSuite is designed to be turnkey installation and easy administration > via things like web forms. Only the larger sites need to do custom > programming, and they are the only ones that will be doing it. Unfortunatly attempts to keep everything as a part of csuite makes things slighty more difficult to maintain. Today if you want to upgrade apache you just get the rpm and install it. Not so if everything is hidden under $csroot. > } Well, if your not having logins (and prehaps even then) the only extra > } administration would be exporting some filesystems, and then spending a > } little longer setting up the new machine. After day one there is nothing > } eles to do. Nobody has one machine, its farms of clones everywhere. > > Apparently, you don't have much experience administering multi > machine sites (or single machines for that matter, even with all the > advances in automation, machines still don't administrate themselves). > As somebody that does regular administration of several multi machine > sites, I will say that this statement definitely isn't true. Alos, > large sites don't use clones since they want reliable hardware. Very > small sites (i.e. most community nets) don't use multiple machines, > because they really don't have the knowledge to administrate one > machine never mind multiple machines. And, yes I'm aware of things > like the Linux phenonom, but there is a big difference between playing > with Linux on your home machine, and running mission critical 24x7 > servers. Clones in "exactly the same as the next" not crappy pc hardware. I dont mean mutiple machine networks, I mean mutiple machines that are exactly the same (less MAC and IP #'s). Reverse proxys. Heartbeats over serial.
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