zmailer upgrades...

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:21:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael Smith <michael@csuite.ns.ca>
To: "David L. Potter" <potter@chebucto.ns.ca>
cc: csuite-dev@chebucto.ns.ca, John Nemeth <jnemeth@victoria.tc.ca>
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On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, David L. Potter wrote:

> For the brave of heart... ;-) 		http://www.orbs.org/

Here're some excerpts from our smtpserver logs during an ORBS relay test
(which we passed, with ZMailer 2.99.50s19). Lines beginning with <number>r
are from their end, and <number>w are from our end. You should be able to
get a pretty good idea of how to test your system from these - just telnet
to your mail server's port 25 from a remote machine somewhere that
shouldn't be allowed to relay through you, and type the commands ORBS
gave. Each test requires a new SMTP connection. I've tried to arrange them
in a better order for testing. Sam Spade (http://www.blighty.com/spam/)
can test for some of these, but not all of them.

10392r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10392w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10392r	MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
10392w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10392r	RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
10392w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

10590r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10590w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10590r	MAIL FROM:<>
10590w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10590r	RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
10590w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

10599r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10599w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10599r	MAIL FROM:<sender@athena.chebucto.ns.Ca>
10599w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10599r	RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
10599w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

10395r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10395w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10395r	MAIL FROM:<sender>
10395w	501 5.1.7 Path data: Missing "@" from mailbox definition

10398r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10398w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10398r	MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
10398w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10398r	RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest%manawatu.co.nz@[192.75.95.81]>
(note: replace 192.75.95.81 with your mailserver's IP address)
10398w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

10399r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10399w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10399r	MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
10399w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10399r	RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest%manawatu.co.nz@athena.chebucto.ns.Ca>
10399w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

10402r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10402w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10402r	MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
10402w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10402r	RCPT TO:<@[192.75.95.81]:orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
10402w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

10403r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10403w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10403r	MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
10403w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10403r	RCPT TO:<@athena.chebucto.ns.Ca:orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
10403w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

10404r HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10404w 250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10404r MAIL FROM:<orbs.org!sender>
10404w 501 5.1.7 Path data: Missing "@" from mailbox definition

10589r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10589w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10589r	MAIL FROM:<sender>
10589w	501 5.1.7 Path data: Missing "@" from mailbox definition

10593r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10593w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10593r	MAIL FROM:<sender@192.75.95.81>
10593w	501 5.1.7 Path data: Should this be of <dotnum> format ? ( [nn.nn.nn.nn] )

10596r	HELO relaytest.orbs.org
10596w	250 athena.chebucto.ns.ca expected "HELO wwwhost.manawatu.net.nz"
10596r	MAIL FROM:<sender@[192.75.95.81]>
10596w	250 2.1.0 Sender syntax Ok
10596r	RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
10596w	553 5.7.1 Policy rejection on the target address

> Our new majordomo configuration now uses standard zmailer aliases for the
> list-owner, list-approval, etc.. We've made associated changes to the
> mailing list creation scripts and as part of our changes we converted
> all our old majordomo aliases to zmailer aliases... 

I think we could actually eliminate all ZMailer customizations having to
do with majordomo (just insert pipe and :include: aliases for each mailing
list).

> Unfortunately we haven't (yet) upgraded the 'mailing list update' script 
> yet. (I've been changing the list-owner aliases, etc. manually (using root
> privileges to edit the aliase file))

The mailing list owner aliases could just be :include:s of files with a
list of owners for the mailing list, one to a line, which could be edited
(either by a root cron job, or directly by http if ZMailer's security
checks are OK with the files not being owned by user daemon)

> - we'll put together the necessary information/tools to upgrade existing
> sites to the current Chebucto zmailer/majordomo configuration. This will
> likely be part of CSuite 1.1 and may be more manageable as part of a
> general upgrade CSuite....(?) 

I think that's the way we should go for CSuite 1.1.


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