[NatureNS] RE: Common sense and caution

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Yes, I had thought about making the trails be one direction.  A very 
slow walker like me is going to tick off the people behind me though 
until someone decides to speed up and pass the slower ones, passing in 
less than the 6 feet.

Don

Don MacNeill donmacneill@bellaliant.net
On 4/25/2020 6:03 PM, David Schlosberg wrote:
>
> I walked in parks before they were closed and I walk on the permitted 
> trails.  If the trails are made one way only, people are quite good 
> about keeping the 6 foot distance.  Also, the parking lots can be kept 
> closed to prevent the “hordes”, and only allow the parks and trails 
> that are reasonably open, where people bunching up can be easily 
> seen.  One guard in a park like Miner’s Marsh can patrol and issue 
> tickets—not for $1000, but certainly for $100.  That would be a 
> sufficient deterrent.  People can be scofflaws on city sidewalks just 
> as easily.
>
> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> 
> *On Behalf Of *Don MacNeill
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:28 PM
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Subject:* Re: Common sense and caution was Re: [NatureNS] Piping 
> Plover, Red-necked Phalaropes and Killdeer
>
> It is not walking alone in Miners Marsh that is the problem David.  If 
> the restrictions were lifted there would be hordes of people looking 
> for places like that to walk, making them problematical in keeping 
> numbers from being in close proximity.  The walks there are also 
> narrow. Why should a few take advantage of there being few people 
> there when the rest of us feel we cannot?
>
> Don
>
> Don MacNeill donmacneill@bellaliant.net 
> <mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net>
>
> On 4/25/2020 2:58 PM, David Webster wrote:
>
>     Hi Peter.
>
>             Please explain how walking alone in Miners Marsh, where
>     there is ample room for social distancing, can endanger anyone.
>
>         And by the way; at 85 I would not welcome getting Covid-19 nor
>     do I imagine that I am immune. And to top it off, sidewalks,
>     unless they are one way, commonly do not permit a spacing of 6'.
>     And which is preferable; walking on sidewalks to get exercise or
>     walking alone or at a minimum distance of 6' in a park ?
>
>         This all reminds me of the MSDS flaps. When I read the one for
>     Boiled Linseed oil I noticed that they had omitted the very real
>     hazard of spontaneous combustion. When the revised version came
>     out the directions were to immerse the material that has Boiled
>     Linseed Oil in a metal can filled with water, secure the lid and
>     store it outside; no kidding.
>
>         And further, it is very bad manners to wish ill on someone who
>     is simply on the side of common sense, rational caution and good
>     health. Keeping people cooped up is not conducive to good mental
>     health or good physical health.
>
>     YT, DW, Kentville
>
>     On 4/25/2020 12:26 PM, Parker Donham wrote:
>
>         Nonsense! This virus is deadly for a few (especially for old
>         people, a demographic that includes a lot of birders) and
>         beyond unpleasant for those who get seriously ill from it.
>         Chris Cuomo, the CNN host who survived a serious bout
>         described it as like taking two shots of Windex and eating a
>         lightbulb."
>
>         Even if you imagine yourself to be immune from it, you are
>         fully capable of endangering others by defying the Emergency
>         Public Health Order. People can do this for days before they
>         experience any symptoms themselves. I'm sorry you are
>         inconvenienced by not being able to pursue a pastime we all
>         love with your usual abandon. It is far more important to keep
>         yourself and others safe. Walk around your near neighbourhood.
>         Enjoy our more mundane, everyday birds. They offer plenty of
>         delights.
>
>         If you persist in thumbing your nose at the Emergency Public
>         Health Order, I urge others to report you. I hope your car
>         will be impounded and a fine imposed.
>
>         On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 10:32 AM David Webster
>         <dwebster@glinx.com <mailto:dwebster@glinx.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hi Don and all,
>
>                 Against the backdrop of endless daily vague jaw
>             wagging by the premier, and orders in effect to go up to
>             your bedroom and stay there, it seems strange that no map
>             has been released of case numbers by County or Nursing
>             Home vs Community. Central, Eastern, Western and Northern
>             is a crude indication. This failure to inform combined
>             with the early announcement that Nursing Homes could not
>             have visitors or release residents for day trips suggests
>             coverup. This lockdown has no doubt saved lives however;
>             by decreasing the number of motor vehicle accidents.
>
>                 A $1000.00 fine for walking alone in a park is abuse
>             of power. Period.
>
>             Yt, DW, Kentville
>
>             On 4/25/2020 8:20 AM, Don MacNeill wrote:
>
>                 I don't think it is the fines we should be worrying
>                 about, it's the dangers of spreading the virus through
>                 unexpected encounters with others or getting into
>                 situations where we would need medical or other
>                 assistance.  I see from eBird reports that even some
>                 of our executive aren't heeding the instructions.
>
>                 Don MacNeill donmacneill@bellaliant.net
>                 <mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net>
>
>                 On 4/24/2020 3:45 PM, James Hirtle wrote:
>
>                     I've received a report of piping plovers back at
>                     Cherry Hill Beach and also of two red-necked
>                     phalaropes there.  I'm not recommending that
>                     people go there.  As much as I would like to go I
>                     will be steering clear as cars are being towed and
>                     $700.00 fines being laid. There is a killdeer near
>                     the entrance of the Broad Cove Beach.  You risk
>                     the same chance there of the car being towed and
>                     fines.  I'm just posting these for the record.
>
>                     James R. Hirtle
>
>