[NatureNS] woodcock

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Thanks for the information, Nancy.  It is fun that there are so many 
things left to discover and understand in nature.  Sounds like we don't 
have the entire concept figured out on why woodcocks do what they do.  I 
like that.  It gives something else to think about these days.

I didn't remember to go out last night to see if I could find the little 
guy but I visited the site yesterday, hoping to find his tracks in the 
snow and better understand exactly where he was calling from.  I didn't 
find the tracks, but a woodcock took flight from the area, giving that 
loud chortling flight sound they make.  Maybe I'll try again as long as 
I don't think I am bothering him too much.

Donna

On 2020-03-26 7:24 a.m., nancy dowd wrote:
> I found two theories as to the possible function of the woodcock 
> “silky walk” in the article below. One says that it simulates the 
> sounds of a burrowing mole thus scaring worms to the surface. And the 
> other suggested by Bernd Heinrich (love his books!) that it is a low 
> level predator warning with the woodcock saying  “I know you are 
> there. I will fly off if you approach so don’t waste your energy or 
> mine by trying.”.  Both nifty possibilities that would explain the 
> usefulness of teaching the young this unique  behaviour.
> https://www.reformer.com/stories/the-view-from-heifer-hill-woodcock-and-the-silly-walk,503750?
>
> Nancy D
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Angus MacLean <Cold_Mac@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I'd pay money to watch that dance and freeze display any time. Has 
>> anyone a theory on why the mother has to teach the young this?
>> Angus
>>
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>> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> 
>> on behalf of rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca <rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> *Sent:* March 25, 2020 11:34 AM
>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] woodcock
>> Hi Donna and All
>> Your post reminds me of a day about 30 - 35 years ago.
>> I forget exactly.  I was going camping for a week or so around 
>> Pestowesk.
>> I could drive to the lake at that time - the good old days!
>> Anyway just before I got to the Farmlands Trail near that wet spot
>> a female woodcock and 3 - 4 chicks were on the side of the road.
>> The chicks were small!
>> That would be about May 4 or 5. I went back and told Peter
>> and he came with the cameras . I don't know if he had any luck.
>> It was a good omen nevertheless - the fishing was good!
>> Do you think we will be able to go fishing in Keji come April?
>> Or will I need fill the bathtub!
>> Enjoy the spring
>> Paul
>>> On March 25, 2020 at 8:31 AM Donna Crossland 
>>> <dcrossland@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> Last evening, I stepped out for a walk and heard the familiar 
>>> "peeent" coming from the same place in a tiny clearing on old 
>>> pastureland, where it calls from each spring.  It's back...
>>>
>>> It's nice that some things don't change.
>>>
>>> I smiled.  Spring and nature.
>>>
>>> Our woods has lots of muddy and poorly drained areas for foraging, 
>>> and open spots for courtship.
>>>
>>> I've always wanted to see the courtship display but never have:
>>>
>>> Courtship display <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeRgumMIJHw>
>>>
>>> I have seen them do this 'dance move' (really a foraging movement).  
>>> It is more entertaining than courtship, though I love the idea that 
>>> the male 'dances' and performs nuptial flights for the female.  That 
>>> should be a rule!
>>>
>>> Dancing in the groove <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEISiCmjwH8>
>>>
>>> The next video was a surprise (never knew it existed), from Kejimkujik:
>>>
>>> Keji Woodcock dance freeze <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSh9Shgwc5o>
>>>
>>> If ever people complain of the slow speed limit (20 km) on that 
>>> narrow dirt road, we could show this video.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Donna Crossland
>>>
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    <p>Thanks for the information, Nancy.  It is fun that there are so
      many things left to discover and understand in nature.  Sounds
      like we don't have the entire concept figured out on why woodcocks
      do what they do.  I like that.  It gives something else to think
      about these days.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>I didn't remember to go out last night to see if I could find the
      little guy but I visited the site yesterday, hoping to find his
      tracks in the snow and better understand exactly where he was
      calling from.  I didn't find the tracks, but a woodcock took
      flight from the area, giving that loud chortling flight sound they
      make.  Maybe I'll try again as long as I don't think I am
      bothering him too much.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Donna<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-03-26 7:24 a.m., nancy dowd
      wrote:<br>
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      I found two theories as to the possible function of the woodcock
      “silky walk” in the article below. One says that it simulates the
      sounds of a burrowing mole thus scaring worms to the surface. And
      the other suggested by Bernd Heinrich (love his books!) that it is
      a low level predator warning with the woodcock saying  “I know you
      are there. I will fly off if you approach so don’t waste your
      energy or mine by trying.”.  Both nifty possibilities that would
      explain the usefulness of teaching the young this unique
       behaviour.
      <div> <a
href="https://www.reformer.com/stories/the-view-from-heifer-hill-woodcock-and-the-silly-walk,503750?"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.reformer.com/stories/the-view-from-heifer-hill-woodcock-and-the-silly-walk,503750?</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Nancy D<br>
        <br>
        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Angus
            MacLean <Cold_Mac@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>
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              I'd pay money to watch that dance and freeze display any
              time. Has anyone a theory on why the mother has to teach
              the young this?</div>
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                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">Hi Donna and All</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">Your post reminds me
                    of a day about 30 - 35 years ago.</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">I forget exactly.  I
                    was going camping for a week or so around Pestowesk.</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">I could drive to the
                    lake at that time - the good old days!</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">Anyway just before I
                    got to the Farmlands Trail near that wet spot</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">a female woodcock and
                    3 - 4 chicks were on the side of the road.</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">The chicks were small!</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">That would be about
                    May 4 or 5. I went back and told Peter</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">and he came with the
                    cameras . I don't know if he had any luck.</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">It was a good omen
                    nevertheless - the fishing was good!</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">Do you think we will
                    be able to go fishing in Keji come April?</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">Or will I need fill
                    the bathtub!</span> </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">Enjoy the spring</span>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt">Paul</span> </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span> </div>
                <div><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span> </div>
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                  On March 25, 2020 at 8:31 AM Donna Crossland
                  <dcrossland@eastlink.ca> wrote: <br>
                  <br>
                  <p>Last evening, I stepped out for a walk and heard
                    the familiar "peeent" coming from the same place in
                    a tiny clearing on old pastureland, where it calls
                    from each spring.  It's back... 
                  </p>
                  <p>It's nice that some things don't change.</p>
                  <p>I smiled.  Spring and nature.  </p>
                  <p>Our woods has lots of muddy and poorly drained
                    areas for foraging, and open spots for courtship.</p>
                  <p>I've always wanted to see the courtship display but
                    never have:</p>
                  <p>  <a
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeRgumMIJHw"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Courtship display</a></p>
                  <p>I have seen them do this 'dance move' (really a
                    foraging movement).  It is more entertaining than
                    courtship, though I love the idea that the male
                    'dances' and performs nuptial flights for the
                    female.  That should be a rule!</p>
                  <p><a
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEISiCmjwH8"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Dancing in the groove</a></p>
                  <p>The next video was a surprise (never knew it
                    existed), from Kejimkujik:</p>
                  <p><a
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSh9Shgwc5o"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Keji Woodcock dance freeze</a></p>
                  <p>If ever people complain of the slow speed limit (20
                    km) on that narrow dirt road, we could show this
                    video.</p>
                  <p>Enjoy!</p>
                  <p>Donna Crossland</p>
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