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Re Richard's email:

First of all, does it have to be "either- or"?

Take it as an opportunity to put in a plug for ecologically sound forestry,
farming, fishing, mining (at least doing the least damage and compensating
somehow), etc.

There is a way to farm ecologically, to minimize or compensate for the
damage done by mines, mills, etc.  (- perhaps even of highways, shopping
malls, housing developments, car lots and wind turbines...? ) IF people
care about the habitat (of both humans and wildlife).

And be ready with a few websites or local people/organizations to refer
them to.

Nancy


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:10 AM Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Preaching to the choir ......... I'm sure everyone in this and similar
> groups already feel as I do, that habitat is vital to migratory birds all
> along their migration route, and that I enjoy birds because they're
> interesting, beautiful, challenging to ID and photograph, are harbingers of
> environmental change, etc. etc., and that enjoying the great outdoors is
> pleasurable to middle class people like myself. So how do you justify/
> explain their value in these terms to somebody whose livelihood and that of
> their family depends on working in a pulp mill, or an open pit mine, in NS,
> when there are no other jobs around, or engineering a condo block on the
> Gulf Coast, or growing his meagre crop of wild rice in Venezuela, etc. etc.
> - all of which are threats to the migratory birds that nest here in NS?   I
> ask this because I recently had a conversation with someone who works in
> Brazil, and is a supporter of the new president (who is a worse
> environmentalist than Trump), but who told me that all his co-workers
> support him because he promises to improve their standard of living, and
> the long term environment somewhere else on the planet is not really
> relevant to their humdrum and poor quality daily lives, --- and I couldn't
> think of any convincing answers. How do others address this issue?
>
> Richard
>
>>
>>> --
> #################
> Richard Stern,
> Port Williams, NS, Canada
> sternrichard@gmail.com
> ###################
>


-- 
Nancy Robinson
514-605-7186

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Re Richard&#39;s email:=C2=A0 <br><br>First of all, d=
oes it have to be &quot;either- or&quot;?=C2=A0 <br><br>Take it as an oppor=
tunity to put in a plug for ecologically sound forestry, farming, fishing, =
mining (at least doing the least damage and compensating somehow), etc.=C2=
=A0 <br><br>There is a way to farm ecologically, to minimize or compensate =
for the damage done by mines, mills, etc.=C2=A0 (- perhaps even of highways=
, shopping malls, housing developments, car lots and wind turbines...? ) IF=
 people care about the habitat (of both humans and wildlife). <br><br></div=
><div>And be ready with a few websites or local people/organizations to ref=
er them to.=C2=A0 <br><br></div><div>Nancy<br></div><div>=C2=A0 <br></div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:10 AM Richard Stern &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com">sternrichard@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Prea=
ching to the choir ......... I&#39;m sure everyone in this and similar grou=
ps already feel as I do, that habitat is vital to migratory birds all along=
 their migration route, and that I enjoy birds because they&#39;re interest=
ing, beautiful, challenging to ID and photograph, are harbingers of environ=
mental change, etc. etc., and that enjoying the great outdoors is pleasurab=
le to middle class people like myself. So how do you justify/ explain their=
 value in these terms to somebody whose livelihood and that of their family=
 depends on working in a pulp mill, or an open pit mine, in NS, when there =
are no other jobs around, or engineering a condo block on the Gulf Coast, o=
r growing his meagre crop of wild rice in Venezuela, etc. etc. - all of whi=
ch are threats to the migratory birds that nest here in NS?=C2=A0 =C2=A0I a=
sk this because I recently had a conversation with someone who works in Bra=
zil, and is a supporter of the new president (who is a worse environmentali=
st than Trump), but who told me that all his co-workers support him because=
 he promises to improve their standard of living, and the long term environ=
ment somewhere else on the planet is not really relevant to their humdrum a=
nd poor quality daily lives, --- and I couldn&#39;t think of any convincing=
 answers. How do others address this issue?</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small">Richard</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-CA"><div class=
=3D"gmail-m_2253266791345291818gmail-m_6957231907282192042gmail-m_-42123514=
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ckquote></div></blockquote></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail-m_2=
253266791345291818gmail-m_6957231907282192042gmail-m_-4212351491231359761gm=
ail-m_-4735100236176672989gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>##########=
#######<br>Richard Stern, <br>Port Williams, NS, Canada<br><a target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com">sternrichard@gmail.com</a><br>#=
##################</div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail-m_2253266791345291818gmail-m_6957231907282192042gmail-m_-4212351491231=
359761gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Nancy Robins=
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