[NatureNS] Multiflora Rose & Robins

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The thorns arent too bad on my mf roses. Many canes are thornless, though
it seems as they age their thorns develop. I'm not on a crusade to
eliminate this plant, I see their value (beauty, habitat, biomass) and I
know it would be more pain than pleasure to try and eradicate it even from
my small property. Windsor is absolutely overrun  with it, for better or
worse. But I will be hacking away at them occasionally to manage edges and
will continue to burn the material for charcoal.

Dave in Currys Corner

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 11:41 AM David Webster, <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave S and All,
>
>     I am not sure but I suspect flowering would depend more on condition
> and size of the root system than on top growth age and guess flowering
> possible by second year; guess only.
>
>     A well established plant has a wealth of reserves in the root system
> so only sustained hacking will kill it. With this in mind it is more
> effective to cut shoots 4-5 buds above ground so new shoot growth will
> deplete root reserves and then brush these off before shoot extension
> slows, indicating possible export to the root. I suggest you keep an eye
> open for the thornless strain and keep these. They have tiny thorns only
> which are usually shed early in growth; quite unlike the large vicious
> thorns of some strains. If you do not have any thornless strain you could
> probably locate some nearby and get rooted plants in a month or so by
> layering new growth.
>
> Dave W. Kentville
>
>     Based on memory, it has taken more than four years to kill one thorned
> rose which did not have much competition; it still keeps producing shoots
> which I brush off as needed.
>
>
> On 4/10/2019 10:26 AM, David Simpson wrote:
>
> Does mf rose flower on first year growth? I've been hacking away at the
> perimeter of my 1/2 acre lot. Lots of mf rose on the periphery, enough to
> produce 55gallons+ of charcoal and still have lots standing for birds,
> which many species clearly adore. Wondering how aggressively I can attack
> it with an eye to leaving enough for habitat benefits.
>
> Dave in Currys Corner
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 9:59 AM David Webster, <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>      With snow cover limiting feeding choices since the snow Monday
>> night, Robins have nearly stripped the nearby  Multiflora Roses
>> yesterday and this morning.
>>
>> Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
>>
>>

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<div dir=3D"auto">The thorns arent too bad on my mf roses. Many canes are t=
hornless, though it seems as they age their thorns develop. I&#39;m not on =
a crusade to eliminate this plant, I see their value (beauty, habitat, biom=
ass) and I know it would be more pain than pleasure to try and eradicate it=
 even from my small property. Windsor is absolutely overrun=C2=A0 with it, =
for better or worse. But I will be hacking away at them occasionally to man=
age edges and will continue to burn the material for charcoal.<div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave in Currys Corner</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 11:41 AM David=
 Webster, &lt;dwebster@glinx.com&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <p>Hi Dave S and All,</p>
    <p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am not sure but I suspect flowering would depen=
d more on
      condition and size of the root system than on top growth age and
      guess flowering possible by second year; guess only.</p>
    <p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 A well established plant has a wealth of reserves=
 in the root
      system so only sustained hacking will kill it. With this in mind
      it is more effective to cut shoots 4-5 buds above ground so new
      shoot growth will deplete root reserves and then brush these off
      before shoot extension slows, indicating possible export to the
      root. I suggest you keep an eye open for the thornless strain and
      keep these. They have tiny thorns only which are usually shed
      early in growth; quite unlike the large vicious thorns of some
      strains. If you do not have any thornless strain you could
      probably locate some nearby and get rooted plants in a month or so
      by layering new growth.</p>
    <p>Dave W. Kentville<br>
    </p>
    <p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Based on memory, it has taken more than four year=
s to kill
      one thorned rose which did not have much competition; it still
      keeps producing shoots which I brush off as needed.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"m_-7017935860344265531moz-cite-prefix">On 4/10/2019 10:26=
 AM, David Simpson
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"auto">Does mf rose flower on first year growth? I&#39;ve
        been hacking away at the perimeter of my 1/2 acre lot. Lots of
        mf rose on the periphery, enough to produce 55gallons+ of
        charcoal and still have lots standing for birds, which many
        species clearly adore. Wondering how aggressively I can attack
        it with an eye to leaving enough for habitat benefits.
        <div dir=3D"auto">
          <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir=3D"auto">Dave in Currys Corner</div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 9:59 AM David Webster, &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">d=
webster@glinx.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear All,<br>
          <br>
          =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 With snow cover limiting feeding choices=
 since the snow
          Monday <br>
          night, Robins have nearly stripped the nearby=C2=A0 Multiflora
          Roses <br>
          yesterday and this morning.<br>
          <br>
          Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville<br>
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
  </div>

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