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>there is much concern. The truth is, here around Annapolis Roya --------=_MB7A4480C2-1F39-4462-BE68-4BDEB5A894E1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jane & All, The prejudice against "invasives" is spread if not created by=20 organizations; "Send money and we may be able to overcome this crisis."=20 It helps to have a good crap detector when reading anything and an open=20 mind when looking. There may be exceptions but typically "invasive"=20 plants exploit underutilized real estate. And believe it or not, some=20 try to eradicate an invasive by pulling it out thereby creating=20 underutilized real estate on which it or other "invasives" will be able=20 to flourish. Even native plants may take advantage of bare soil and light. In the= =20 early 80s a graveled logging road with ditches was built near my woodlot=20 and a common but seldom flowering woodland plant, Petasites palmatus=20 with flowers soon became abundant along part of the ditch. It has a=20 pleasant odor and insects like it so I planted some in the Kentville=20 garden. And soon removed every trace from the garden because it started=20 to spread like a bad weed. Japanese Knotweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) is another victim of=20 misinformation and the perfect weed-free lawn mentality which assigns=20 total control of all living things to the lawn manager. Bees, (including=20 Honey Bees) and other insects are often abundant on these late flowering=20 plants. And they rarely establish new colonies except when transplanted=20 by earth moving equipment. And patches may remain the same size for many=20 decades if they come up against established plant cover. Along flood=20 prone brooks they can slow soil erosion. I never appreciated how rapidly secondary succession can change=20 herbaceous plant cover until I visited the same woodlots over a period=20 of decades (78 & 37 yrs). To paraphrase a glib saying; the only constant=20 is change. And the very small house lot is similar. Plants come and go; the=20 number of species observed has increased over time but as new ones=20 appear some of the old die out. Enough gossip. Yt, DW, Kentville ------ Original Message ------ From: "David&Jane Schlosberg" <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: 5/5/2018 6:30:33 PM Subject: RE: Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine=20 in Nova Scotia >David, your posts are always interesting. I consulted Papa Google, and=20 >it seems the glossy buckthorn is damned by a great many people=E2=80=94Nat= ure=20 >Conservancy, Tree Canada, et al. Could it be that this plant is=20 >damaging to the ecosystem in climates like Ontario, but not such a=20 >problem in Nova Scotia? Your comments have helped me appreciate the=20 >complexity of ecology. It=E2=80=99s worse than middle eastern politics. = =F0=9F=98=89 > > > >Jane Schlosberg > > > >From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> On=20 >Behalf Of David >Sent: May 5, 2018 5:09 PM >To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >Subject: Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in=20 >Nova Scotia > > > >Hi Nick & All, > > Glossy Buckthorn IMHO is a positive for thinned woodland; thinned=20 >by windfall, tree death or cutting. Provided seeds are present it=20 >becomes established and grows rapidly and thus captures many mobile=20 >nutrients which might otherwise be lost. It discourages the gross=20 >overstocking by Ash which otherwise become a thicket of runts.=20 >Buckthorn, unless held up by other shrubs typically grow lanky, flop=20 >over and die. The odd one survives the floppy stage and generates a=20 >nurse canopy for real trees which typically take longer to get=20 >established. My once Buckthorn thickets are now largely Buckthorn=20 >fragments. > > By arrangement I would be delighted to walk anyone interested=20 >through some of the patches which remain. It spreads rapidly because=20 >[gasp] birds mob these shrubs in season. But it does not "invade" small=20 >openings in the canopy so is absent or very sparse in most of my=20 >woodlot. > > > > Frankly I think the notion that it is undesirable is founded upon=20 >prejudice and nothing else. > > > >Yt, DW, Kentville > > > >------ Original Message ------ > >From: "Nick Hill" <fernhillns@gmail.com> > >To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > >Sent: 5/5/2018 4:37:04 PM > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia > > > >>Calm...i lived in southeast Kentucky >> >>We had kudzu vine that swallowed abandoned houses...crossex roads via=20 >>phone lines >> >>Scary but before we call Jesus and Mary we notice it did not enter=20 >>intact woodland and was restricted to about 30m from the roaside. >> >>We do have a couple of plants that are 9f concern because they do get=20 >>into fairly intact ecosystems. I'd put glossy buckthorn at the top of=20 >>the list and then in terms of potential for harm given reports from=20 >>elsewhere, I'd be concerned about the spread of garlic mustard. >> >> >> >>Glossy? It's naturalized now and is part of swamps and early forest=20 >>succession. It's not the end of the world...its green it's a laxative=20 >>for birds and it fits into a red maple alder tudspuck sedge swamp with=20 >>no apparent diversity or community function effects. >> >> >> >>Fight clearcutting and our inability to get any marine protected areas=20 >>for the eastern shore because we don't want any impingement on=20 >>rockweed harvest or oil and gas development. >> >> >> >>Great name! >> >> >> >>On Sat, May 5, 2018, 1:21 PM David, <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: >> >>>Hi Dave P., Bev and all. >>> What an unfortunate name to be saddled with. Just this side of >>>'wanted dead or alive'. I wish to add to Bev's comments about the >>>abundance of 'invasives'. >>> As a general rule of thumb animals and plants eventually=20 >>>generate >>>conditions which threaten their well being/survival. And those which >>>prevail may do so by "invading" fresh territory which is not loaded=20 >>>with >>>diseases or parasites. >>> Consequently, if something is threatened the best recovery remedy= =20 >>>may >>>be to move a starter kit of it elsewhere. Before lighting long=20 >>>distance >>>flame throwers think about this in general terms. What is the better >>>choice 1) act to preserve a flora and fauna which is free of=20 >>>"invasive" >>>species or 2) act to enable survival of species which may be=20 >>>endangered >>>? >>>Yt, DW. Kentville >>> >>>------ Original Message ------ >>>From: "Bev Wigney" <bkwigney@gmail.com> >>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>>Sent: 5/5/2018 9:35:44 AM >>>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia >>> >>> >Bad news if Dog-strangling vine (DSV) is here as it is quite a=20 >>>scourge >>> >in eastern Ontario. Everyone struggles to keep it out of their=20 >>>gardens >>> >and it grows rampant on vacant properties or even in woodlands. I=20 >>>was >>> >in Ontario all last summer and went for walks in several places=20 >>>around >>> >Ottawa and found it growing profusely everywhere. Fred Schueler=20 >>>may >>> >comment on the prevalence there and perhaps here as well. Another=20 >>>up >>> >and comer I saw there spreading out from what might have been its >>> >Ground Zero in an abandoned industrial park was Tartarian Maple. >>> >*sigh* >>> > >>> >As for invasive plants, I haven't found that there is much concern >>> >over them here in NS although maybe there is a department that=20 >>>records >>> >such things. I did try to find out about this a few years ago after >>> >taking note of an incredible acreage which was just covered with a >>> >non-native vine -- Wisteria sinensis. I made mention of it here on >>> >NatureNS at the time (summer 2013). It grows rampantly all over the >>> >woods at this property, but also along the roadside and actually up >>> >over the powerlines - smothering everything in its path. I've seen=20 >>>it >>> >spreading out from there, but it seems that is not considered >>> >problematic. At the time, I did some readng up on it and discovered >>> >that just about everywhere, it is considered a serious invasive. >>> >Reminds me of the Japanese Knotweed around here -- growing along=20 >>>Route >>> >201 and in vacant land in Annapolis Royal. When I first moved here,= =20 >>>a >>> >neighbour offered to give me some roots of his "bamboo". He used to >>> >chop it down and toss it into a ravine on his own property and now >>> >it's growing down there. I see a lot of it around Bridgetown next=20 >>>to >>> >the river too. It seems to be everywhere. However, I don't think >>> >there is much concern. The truth is, here around Annapolis Royal,=20 >>>if >>> >all of the particularly invasive, non-native plants (multiflora=20 >>>roses, >>> >goutweed, tansy, knotweed, phragmites, wisteria, etc..) ever >>> >disappeared overnight, their absence would leave something of a >>> >wasteland. I suspect European and Asiatic plants probably outnumber >>> >natives by about 2 to 1. I've found that to be the case with snails >>> >and slugs and to some extent with insects as well, by the way. No >>> >doubt, many of these plants came with the settlers and seem to have >>> >done quite well over the centuries. Definitely has an impact on the >>> >ecology of the area -- less native plant hosts for our native=20 >>>insects >>> >-- and so on. >>> > >>> >Bev Wigney >>> >Round Hill >>> > >>> >On 5/5/18, David Patriquin <David.Patriquin@dal.ca> wrote: >>> >>Some discussion about Dog-strangling vine (Cynanchum rossicum & >>> >>Cynanchum >>> >>louiseae) came up in a discussion forum on Woods and Waters Nova >>> >>Scotia; I >>> >>had not heard of it before in NS and cannot find it in any lists of >>> >>invasive >>> >>plants for NS. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>From the discussion forum, from a resident in the Port George area: >>> >> >>> >>"...can see out my window where it starts . my next door neighbours >>> >>bush is >>> >>blanketed . from the tops of his mature spruce to the ground....the >>> >>vines >>> >>next door , that=E2=80=99s where it starts , then it went through our >>> >>blackberry >>> >>field and mostly killed it . now it=E2=80=99s in our woods >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>So I am wondering how common it is now in NS - I would appreciate=20 >>>any >>> >>comments, observations from NatureNS folks >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Another question - is there a group or gov agency in NS that is >>> >>actively >>> >>keeping track of invasive plants? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>At http://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/ its distribution is cited=20 >>>as " >>> >>in >>> >>parts of Ontario, southern Quebec and several American states" >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Short description >>> >> >>> >>Dog-strangling vine is found in parts of Ontario, southern Quebec=20 >>>and >>> >>several American states. This plant grows aggressively by wrapping >>> >>itself >>> >>around tress and other plants, and can grow up to two metres high. >>> >>This >>> >>forms dense stands that overwhelm and crowd out native plants and >>> >>young >>> >>trees, preventing forest regeneration. The plant produces=20 >>>bean-shaped >>> >>seed >>> >>pods for to seven centimetres long and pink to dark purple=20 >>>star-shaped >>> >>flowers >>> >> >>> --------=_MB7A4480C2-1F39-4462-BE68-4BDEB5A894E1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!--#x583c2dbaec784d9 p.MsoNormal {margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-seri= f;} #x583c2dbaec784d9 a:link {color: blue; text-decoration: underline;} #x583c2dbaec784d9 a:visited {color: purple; text-decoration: underline;} #x583c2dbaec784d9 div.WordSection1 {page: WordSection1;} --></style><style id=3D"css_styles" type=3D"text/css"><!--blockquote.cite { = margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right:0px= ; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc } blockquote.cite2 {margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px;= padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; margin-top: 3px; padding= -top: 0px; } a img { border: 0px; } li[style=3D'text-align: center;'], li[style=3D'text-align: right;'] { list= -style-position: inside;} body { font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 12pt; }--></style></head><body><di= v>Hi Jane & All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The prejudice against "invasiv= es" is spread if not created by organizations; "Send money and we may be ab= le to overcome this crisis." It helps to have a good crap detector when rea= ding anything and an open mind when looking. There may be exceptions but ty= pically "invasive" plants exploit underutilized real estate. And believe it = or not, some try to eradicate an invasive by pulling it out thereby creati= ng underutilized real estate on which it or other "invasives" will be able= to flourish.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Even native plants may take adva= ntage of bare soil and light. In the early 80s a graveled logging road with = ditches was built near my woodlot and a common but seldom flowering woodla= nd plant, Petasites palmatus with flowers soon became abundant along part o= f the ditch. It has a pleasant odor and insects like it so I planted some i= n the Kentville garden. And soon removed every trace from the garden becaus= e it started to spread like a bad weed.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Japanese Kn= otweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) is another victim of misinformation and the p= erfect weed-free lawn mentality which assigns total control of all living t= hings to the lawn manager. Bees, (including Honey Bees) and other insects a= re often abundant on these late flowering plants. And they rarely establish = new colonies except when transplanted by earth moving equipment. And patch= es may remain the same size for many decades if they come up against establ= ished plant cover. Along flood prone brooks they can slow soil erosion.=C2= =A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I never appreciated how rapidly secondary succe= ssion can change herbaceous plant cover until I visited the same woodlots o= ver a period of decades (78 & 37 yrs). To paraphrase a glib saying; the = only constant is change.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And the very small= house lot is similar. Plants come and go; the number of species observed ha= s increased over time but as new ones appear some of the old die out. Enoug= h gossip.</div><div>Yt, DW, Kentville=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</= div> <div><br /></div> <div>------ Original Message ------</div> <div>From: "David&Jane Schlosberg" <<a href=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.= sympatico.ca">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></div> <div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca= </a></div> <div>Sent: 5/5/2018 6:30:33 PM</div> <div>Subject: RE: Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vi= ne in Nova Scotia</div><div><br /></div> <div id=3D"x583c2dbaec784d9"><blockquote cite=3D"017801d3e4b8$4ceaad80$e6c0= 0880$@ns.sympatico.ca" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">David, your posts are al= ways interesting.=C2=A0 I consulted Papa Google, and it seems the glossy bu= ckthorn is damned by a great many people=E2=80=94Nature Conservancy, Tree C= anada, et al.=C2=A0 Could it be that this plant is damaging to the ecosyste= m in climates like Ontario, but not such a problem in Nova Scotia?=C2=A0 Yo= ur comments have helped me appreciate the complexity of ecology.=C2=A0 It= =E2=80=99s worse than middle eastern politics. <span style=3D"font-family:&= quot;Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">=F0=9F=98=89</span><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#u= nknown"></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</= o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jane Schlosberg<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o= :p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p><di= v><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0c= m 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-o= wner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <<a href=3D"mailt= o:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>> <b>O= n Behalf Of </b>David<br /><b>Sent:</b> May 5, 2018 5:09 PM<br /><b>To:</b> = naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br= /><b>Subject:</b> Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vi= ne in Nova Scotia<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div></div><p class= =3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"M= soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sa= ns-serif">Hi Nick & All,<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></di= v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&= quot;Tahoma",sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Glossy Buckthorn IMHO =C2=A0is= a positive for thinned woodland; thinned by windfall, tree death or cutting= . Provided seeds are present it becomes established and grows rapidly and t= hus captures many mobile nutrients which might otherwise be lost. It discou= rages the gross overstocking by Ash which otherwise become a thicket of run= ts. Buckthorn, unless held up by other shrubs typically grow lanky, flop ov= er and die. The odd one survives the floppy stage and generates a nurse can= opy for real trees which typically take longer to get established. My once= Buckthorn thickets are now largely Buckthorn fragments.=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o= =3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl= e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 By arrangement I would be delighted to walk anyone interested through s= ome of the patches which remain.<i>=C2=A0</i>It spreads rapidly because [ga= sp] birds mob these shrubs in season. But it does not "invade" small openin= gs in the canopy so is absent or very sparse in most of my woodlot.=C2=A0<o= :p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">= <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">= =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Taho= ma",sans-serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Frankly I think the notion tha= t it is undesirable is founded upon prejudice and nothing else.<o:p xmlns:o= =3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl= e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"= MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",s= ans-serif">Yt, DW, Kentville<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></di= v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&= quot;Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span>= </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-= family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">------ Original Message ------<o:p xm= lns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span = style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From: = "Nick Hill" <<a href=3D"mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com">fernhillns@gmail.c= om</a>><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",= sans-serif">To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebuct= o.ns.ca</a><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class= =3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma&quo= t;,sans-serif">Sent: 5/5/2018 4:37:04 PM<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></s= pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;f= ont-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Do= g-strangling vine in Nova Scotia<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p>= </div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami= ly:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></s= pan></p></div><div id=3D"xa75bc5fe77ef49f"><blockquote style=3D"border:none= ;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75= pt;margin-top:2.25pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",= sans-serif">Calm...i lived in southeast Kentucky<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"><= /o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt= ;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">We had kudzu vine=C2=A0 that sw= allowed abandoned houses...crossex roads via phone lines<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#un= known"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo= nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Scary but before= we call Jesus and Mary we notice it did not enter intact woodland and was r= estricted to about 30m from the roaside.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></s= pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;f= ont-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">We do have a couple of plants tha= t are 9f concern because they do get into fairly intact ecosystems. I'd put = glossy buckthorn at the top of the list and then in terms of potential for = harm given reports from elsewhere, I'd be concerned about the spread of ga= rlic mustard.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class= =3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma&quo= t;,sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p></div><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ta= homa",sans-serif">Glossy? It's naturalized now and is part of swamps a= nd early forest succession. It's not the end of the world...its green it's= a laxative for birds and it fits into a red maple alder tudspuck sedge swam= p with no apparent diversity or community function effects.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"= #unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D= "font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o= =3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa= n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Figh= t clearcutting and our inability to get any marine protected areas for the= eastern shore because we don't want any impingement on rockweed harvest or= oil and gas development.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><d= iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"= ;Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>= </div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami= ly:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Great name!<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:= p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12= .0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">= =C2=A0</o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font= -size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">On Sat, May 5, 2018= , 1:21 PM David, <<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwebster@glinx.c= om</a>> wrote:<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><blockquo= te style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm = 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"= margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tah= oma",sans-serif">Hi Dave P., Bev and all.<br />=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wha= t an unfortunate name to be saddled with. Just this side of <br />'wanted d= ead or alive'. I wish to add to Bev's comments about the <br />abundance of = 'invasives'.<br />=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0As a general rule of thumb animals a= nd plants eventually generate <br />conditions which threaten their well be= ing/survival. And those which <br />prevail may do so by "invading" fresh t= erritory which is not loaded with <br />diseases or parasites.<br />=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Consequently, if something is threatened the best recovery remedy m= ay <br />be to move a starter kit of it elsewhere. Before lighting long dis= tance <br />flame throwers think about this in general terms. What is the b= etter <br />choice 1) act to preserve a flora and fauna which is free of "i= nvasive" <br />species or 2) act to enable survival of species which may be = endangered <br />?<br />Yt, DW. Kentville<br /><br />------ Original Messa= ge ------<br />From: "Bev Wigney" <<a href=3D"mailto:bkwigney@gmail.com"= >bkwigney@gmail.com</a>><br />To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns= .ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br />Sent: 5/5/2018 9:35:44 AM<br />Subjec= t: Re: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia<br /><br />>Bad new= s if Dog-strangling vine (DSV) is here as it is quite a scourge<br />>in = eastern Ontario. Everyone struggles to keep it out of their gardens<br />&= gt;and it grows rampant on vacant properties or even in woodlands.=C2=A0 I= was<br />>in Ontario all last summer and went for walks in several place= s around<br />>Ottawa and found it growing profusely everywhere.=C2=A0 = =C2=A0Fred Schueler may<br />>comment on the prevalence there and perha= ps here as well.=C2=A0 Another up<br />>and comer I saw there spreading= out from what might have been its<br />>Ground Zero in an abandoned indu= strial park was Tartarian Maple.<br />>*sigh*<br />><br />>As for= invasive plants, I haven't found that there is much concern<br />>over t= hem here in NS although maybe there is a department that records<br />>s= uch things.=C2=A0 I did try to find out about this a few years ago after<br = />>taking note of an incredible acreage which was just covered with a<b= r />>non-native vine -- Wisteria sinensis.=C2=A0 I made mention of it he= re on<br />>NatureNS at the time (summer 2013).=C2=A0 It grows rampantly = all over the<br />>woods at this property, but also along the roadside= and actually up<br />>over the powerlines - smothering everything in its = path.=C2=A0 I've seen it<br />>spreading out from there, but it seems t= hat is not considered<br />>problematic.=C2=A0 At the time, I did some r= eadng up on it and discovered<br />>that just about everywhere, it is co= nsidered a serious invasive.<br />>Reminds me of the Japanese Knotweed a= round here -- growing along Route<br />>201 and in vacant land in Annapo= lis Royal.=C2=A0 When I first moved here, a<br />>neighbour offered to g= ive me some roots of his "bamboo".=C2=A0 He used to<br />>chop it down a= nd toss it into a ravine on his own property and now<br />>it's growing= down there.=C2=A0 I see a lot of it around Bridgetown next to<br />>the= river too.=C2=A0 It seems to be everywhere.=C2=A0 =C2=A0However, I don't th= ink<br />>there is much concern.=C2=A0 The truth is, here around Annapol= is Royal, if<br />>all of the particularly invasive, non-native plants (= multiflora roses,<br />>goutweed, tansy, knotweed, phragmites, wisteria,= =C2=A0 etc..) ever<br />>disappeared overnight, their absence would leav= e something of a<br />>wasteland.=C2=A0 I suspect European and Asiatic p= lants probably outnumber<br />>natives by about 2 to 1.=C2=A0 I've found = that to be the case with snails<br />>and slugs and=C2=A0 to some exten= t with insects as well, by the way.=C2=A0 No<br />>doubt, many of these= plants came with the settlers and seem to have<br />>done quite well ove= r the centuries. Definitely has an impact on the<br />>ecology of the ar= ea -- less native plant hosts for our native insects<br />>-- and so on.= <br />><br />>Bev Wigney<br />>Round Hill<br />><br />>On 5/= 5/18, David Patriquin <<a href=3D"mailto:David.Patriquin@dal.ca">David.P= atriquin@dal.ca</a>> wrote:<br />>>Some discussion about Dog-stran= gling vine (Cynanchum rossicum & <br />>>Cynanchum<br />>>l= ouiseae) came up in a discussion forum on Woods and Waters Nova <br />>&= gt;Scotia; I<br />>>had not heard of it before in NS and cannot find= it in any lists of <br />>>invasive<br />>>plants for NS.<br />= >><br />>><br />>>From the discussion forum, from a resid= ent in the Port George area:<br />>><br />>>"...can see out my= window where it starts . my next door neighbours <br />>>bush is<br /= >>>blanketed . from the tops of his mature spruce to the ground....th= e <br />>>vines<br />>>next door , that=E2=80=99s where it star= ts , then it went through our <br />>>blackberry<br />>>field a= nd mostly killed it . now it=E2=80=99s in our woods<br />>><br />>= ><br />>>So I am wondering how common it is now in NS - I would ap= preciate any<br />>>comments, observations from NatureNS folks<br />&= gt;><br />>><br />>>Another question - is there a group or g= ov agency in NS that is <br />>>actively<br />>>keeping track o= f invasive plants?<br />>><br />>><br />>>At <a href=3D"h= ttp://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/">http://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/</= a> its distribution is cited as " <br />>>in<br />>>parts of On= tario, southern Quebec and several American states"<br />>><br />>= ><br />>>Short description<br />>><br />>>Dog-strangli= ng vine is found in parts of Ontario, southern Quebec and<br />>>seve= ral American states. This plant grows aggressively by wrapping <br />>&g= t;itself<br />>>around tress and other plants, and can grow up to two = metres high. <br />>>This<br />>>forms dense stands that overw= helm and crowd out native plants and <br />>>young<br />>>trees= , preventing forest regeneration. The plant produces bean-shaped <br />>= >seed<br />>>pods for to seven centimetres long and pink to dark p= urple star-shaped<br />>>flowers<br />>><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknow= n"></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquot= e></div> </body></html> --------=_MB7A4480C2-1F39-4462-BE68-4BDEB5A894E1--
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