next message in archive
next message in thread
previous message in archive
Index of Subjects
This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01D3E49F.27A034A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, your posts are always interesting. I consulted Papa Google, and = it seems the glossy buckthorn is damned by a great many = people=E2=80=94Nature Conservancy, Tree Canada, et al. Could it be that = this plant is damaging to the ecosystem in climates like Ontario, but = not such a problem in Nova Scotia? Your comments have helped me = appreciate the complexity of ecology. It=E2=80=99s worse than middle = eastern politics. =F0=9F=98=89 =20 Jane Schlosberg =20 From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> On = Behalf Of David Sent: May 5, 2018 5:09 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in = Nova Scotia =20 Hi Nick & All, Glossy Buckthorn IMHO is a positive for thinned woodland; thinned = by windfall, tree death or cutting. Provided seeds are present it = becomes established and grows rapidly and thus captures many mobile = nutrients which might otherwise be lost. It discourages the gross = overstocking by Ash which otherwise become a thicket of runts. = Buckthorn, unless held up by other shrubs typically grow lanky, flop = over and die. The odd one survives the floppy stage and generates a = nurse canopy for real trees which typically take longer to get = established. My once Buckthorn thickets are now largely Buckthorn = fragments.=20 By arrangement I would be delighted to walk anyone interested = through some of the patches which remain. It spreads rapidly because = [gasp] birds mob these shrubs in season. But it does not "invade" small = openings in the canopy so is absent or very sparse in most of my = woodlot.=20 =20 Frankly I think the notion that it is undesirable is founded upon = prejudice and nothing else. =20 Yt, DW, Kentville =20 ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nick Hill" <fernhillns@gmail.com <mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com> > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>=20 Sent: 5/5/2018 4:37:04 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia =20 Calm...i lived in southeast Kentucky We had kudzu vine that swallowed abandoned houses...crossex roads via = phone lines Scary but before we call Jesus and Mary we notice it did not enter = intact woodland and was restricted to about 30m from the roaside. We do have a couple of plants that are 9f concern because they do get = into fairly intact ecosystems. I'd put glossy buckthorn at the top of = the list and then in terms of potential for harm given reports from = elsewhere, I'd be concerned about the spread of garlic mustard. =20 Glossy? It's naturalized now and is part of swamps and early forest = succession. It's not the end of the world...its green it's a laxative = for birds and it fits into a red maple alder tudspuck sedge swamp with = no apparent diversity or community function effects. =20 Fight clearcutting and our inability to get any marine protected areas = for the eastern shore because we don't want any impingement on rockweed = harvest or oil and gas development. =20 Great name! =20 On Sat, May 5, 2018, 1:21 PM David, <dwebster@glinx.com = <mailto:dwebster@glinx.com> > wrote: Hi Dave P., Bev and all. What an unfortunate name to be saddled with. Just this side of=20 'wanted dead or alive'. I wish to add to Bev's comments about the=20 abundance of 'invasives'. As a general rule of thumb animals and plants eventually generate=20 conditions which threaten their well being/survival. And those which=20 prevail may do so by "invading" fresh territory which is not loaded with = diseases or parasites. Consequently, if something is threatened the best recovery remedy = may=20 be to move a starter kit of it elsewhere. Before lighting long distance=20 flame throwers think about this in general terms. What is the better=20 choice 1) act to preserve a flora and fauna which is free of "invasive"=20 species or 2) act to enable survival of species which may be endangered=20 ? Yt, DW. Kentville ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bev Wigney" <bkwigney@gmail.com <mailto:bkwigney@gmail.com> > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>=20 Sent: 5/5/2018 9:35:44 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia >Bad news if Dog-strangling vine (DSV) is here as it is quite a scourge >in eastern Ontario. Everyone struggles to keep it out of their gardens >and it grows rampant on vacant properties or even in woodlands. I was >in Ontario all last summer and went for walks in several places around >Ottawa and found it growing profusely everywhere. Fred Schueler may >comment on the prevalence there and perhaps here as well. Another up >and comer I saw there spreading out from what might have been its >Ground Zero in an abandoned industrial park was Tartarian Maple. >*sigh* > >As for invasive plants, I haven't found that there is much concern >over them here in NS although maybe there is a department that records >such things. I did try to find out about this a few years ago after >taking note of an incredible acreage which was just covered with a >non-native vine -- Wisteria sinensis. I made mention of it here on >NatureNS at the time (summer 2013). It grows rampantly all over the >woods at this property, but also along the roadside and actually up >over the powerlines - smothering everything in its path. I've seen it >spreading out from there, but it seems that is not considered >problematic. At the time, I did some readng up on it and discovered >that just about everywhere, it is considered a serious invasive. >Reminds me of the Japanese Knotweed around here -- growing along Route >201 and in vacant land in Annapolis Royal. When I first moved here, a >neighbour offered to give me some roots of his "bamboo". He used to >chop it down and toss it into a ravine on his own property and now >it's growing down there. I see a lot of it around Bridgetown next to >the river too. It seems to be everywhere. However, I don't think >there is much concern. The truth is, here around Annapolis Roya