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Codlin --------=_MBD095BB62-96E5-4216-928B-318051340C1F Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John & All, With respect to rate of recent cutting there is a need for credible=20 ground truth. Some forest advocates say cutting is grossly excessive=20 while NR and the industry say all is fine. For those who have no way to=20 see for themselves this generates a barrier to action. But when stands of large hardwood are chipped for export or trucked=20 to feed a remote bio furnace while established value-added operations=20 have to close because their essential raw material, hardwood timber, is=20 unavailable then it is clear that something is seriously wrong. And it=20 is also clear that adjustments are needed. How could such things happen ? The basic forces are as old as=20 humanity; nomads don't conserve soil or nurture anything. They extract,=20 damage, destroy and, when necessary, move on. Under our first past the=20 post system our elected leaders look to a short future (the next=20 election), and do whatever is necessary to win the next election. They=20 in effect have the mentality of nomads. The first step to sound forest=20 policy on crown and private land is sound government which looks and=20 plans far into the future. Numerous flavors of Proportional=20 Representation enable this. Compare Denmark and Nova Scotia. Their sole natural resource is=20 being located on the coast. NS is also on the coast and has much more=20 natural resources. But look at the difference. Denmark, among other=20 things, is a major trading nation and an important designer and builder=20 of ships. They are one of the three most happy nations on earth=20 (Nat.Geo. 232(5):30-59, 2017). Canada never has had PR in any jurisdiction, so far as I know. But=20 Prime Minister Mackenzie King acted in that context; he stressed the=20 need for consultation on all major decisions which is the essence of PR.=20 He e.g. managed to build a navy in far less time than than it currently=20 takes Ottawa to build a row boat. Yt, DW, Kentville ------ Original Message ------ From: "John and Nhung" <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: 11/17/2017 5:56:48 AM Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island >Pretty impressive, as is the economic coda. Value-added seems to be=20 >under attack in the Nova Scotia forest industry, as well, given the=20 >closure of some small operations in recent years. =E2=80=9CWhat can be do= ne=20 >about it?=E2=80=9D is a question that needs to be addressed. > > > >One bit of optimism: In my wee corner of the universe (south of=20 >Yarmouth), I=E2=80=99d say forest cover has increased overall since the = =E2=80=9850=E2=80=99s,=20 >mainly from the regrowth of oldfields and old cuts. However, can=E2=80=99= t say=20 >that for the whole county, particularly in recent years, as forests get=20 >mowed and exported to parts unknown. All I can be sure of is that=20 >damned few folks down here are benefiting from the =E2=80=9Charvest.=E2=80= =9D > > > >I think we also have wonder why this government is so reluctant to err=20 >on the side of sustainable forestry. I speculate that the horrible=20 >state of our provincial finances have the government scared, and this=20 >may be a politically inexpensive (relatively speaking) way of=20 >addressing that. So, =E2=80=A6 as part of addressing the current mining= of=20 >the forests, could raising ideas with politicians about other ways of=20 >addressing our fiscal situation help mitigate the assault? > > > >Everything is connected=E2=80=A6 > > > >From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20 >[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Lois Codling >Sent: November 16, 2017 10:13 PM >To: Nature NS >Subject: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island > > > >Very interesting map here: >https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-cover-map-shows-the-= progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forests-over-the-past-ce= ntury/ > >Wish someone would do this for N.S. > >Lois Codling > --------=_MBD095BB62-96E5-4216-928B-318051340C1F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"utf-16"?><html><head><style id=3D"css_sty= les" type=3D"text/css"><!--blockquote.cite { margin-left: 5px; margin-right= : 0px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #ccccc= c } blockquote.cite2 {margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px;= padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; margin-top: 3px; padding= -top: 0px; } a img { border: 0px; } ol, ul { list-style-position: inside }=20 body { font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 12pt; }@font-face{ font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4; } @font-face{ font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; } #xcca354d047d042e p.MsoNormal,#xcca354d047d042e li.MsoNormal,#xcca354d047d0= 42e div.MsoNormal{ margin:0cm; margin-bottom:0.0001pt; font-size:12pt; font-family:'Times New Roman','serif'; color:black; } #xcca354d047d042e a:link,#xcca354d047d042e span.MsoHyperlink{ mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline; } #xcca354d047d042e a:visited,#xcca354d047d042e span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed{ mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline; } #xcca354d047d042e span.EmailStyle17{ mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'; color:#1F497D; } #xcca354d047d042e .MsoChpDefault{ mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10pt; } @page :WordSection1{ size:612pt 792pt; margin:72pt 72pt 72pt 72pt; } #xcca354d047d042e div.WordSection1{ page:WordSection1; }--></style></head><body><div>Hi John & All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wi= th respect to rate of recent cutting there is a need for credible ground tr= uth. Some forest advocates say cutting is grossly excessive while NR and th= e industry say all is fine. For those who have no way to see for themselves = this generates a barrier to action.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 But when stand= s of large hardwood are chipped for export or trucked to feed a remote bio= furnace while established value-added operations have to close because thei= r essential raw material, hardwood timber, is unavailable then it is clear= that something is seriously wrong. And it is also clear that adjustments ar= e needed.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 How could such things happen ? The basic= forces are as old as humanity; nomads don't conserve soil or nurture anythi= ng. They extract, damage, destroy and, when necessary, move on. Under our f= irst past the post system our elected leaders look to a short future (the n= ext election), and do whatever is necessary to win the next election. They= in effect have the mentality of nomads. The first step to sound forest poli= cy on crown and private land is sound government which looks and plans far= into the future. Numerous flavors of Proportional Representation enable thi= s.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style= =3D"white-space:pre"> </span>Compare Denmark and Nova Scotia. Their sole na= tural resource is being located on the coast. NS is also on the coast and h= as much more natural resources. But look at the difference. Denmark, among= other things, is a major trading nation and an important designer and build= er of ships. They are one of the three most happy nations on earth (Nat.Geo= . 232(5):30-59, 2017).</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Canada never has had PR in a= ny jurisdiction, so far as I know. But Prime Minister Mackenzie King acted= in that context; he stressed the need for consultation on all major decisio= ns which is the essence of PR. He e.g. managed to build a navy in far less= time than than it currently takes Ottawa to build a row boat.</div><div>Yt, = DW, Kentville</div><div><br /></div> <div><br /></div> <div>------ Original Message ------</div> <div>From: "John and Nhung" <<a href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">nh= ungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>></div> <div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca= </a></div> <div>Sent: 11/17/2017 5:56:48 AM</div> <div>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Islan= d</div><div><br /></div> <div id=3D"xcca354d047d042e"><blockquote cite=3D"000301d35f8a$62851210$278f= 3630$@eastlink.ca" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size= :11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D">Pretty impressive, as is the economic coda.=C2=A0 Value-added seems to b= e under attack in the Nova Scotia forest industry, as well, given the closu= re of some small operations in recent years.=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CWhat can be don= e about it?=E2=80=9D =C2=A0is a question that needs to be addressed.<o:p xm= lns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f= ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo= r:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso= Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&qu= ot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One bit of optimism:=C2=A0 In my wee cor= ner of the universe (south of Yarmouth), I=E2=80=99d say forest cover has i= ncreased overall =C2=A0since the =E2=80=9850=E2=80=99s, mainly from the reg= rowth of oldfields and old cuts.=C2=A0 However, can=E2=80=99t say that for= the whole county, particularly in recent years, as forests get mowed and ex= ported to parts unknown.=C2=A0 All I can be sure of is that damned few folk= s down here are benefiting from the =E2=80=9Charvest.=E2=80=9D<o:p xmlns:o= =3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa= ns-serif";color:#1F497D">I think we also have wonder why this governme= nt is so reluctant to err on the side of sustainable forestry. =C2=A0I spec= ulate that the horrible state of our provincial finances have the governmen= t scared, and this may be a politically inexpensive (relatively speaking) w= ay of addressing that.=C2=A0 =C2=A0So, =E2=80=A6 as part of addressing the= current mining of the forests, could raising ideas with politicians about o= ther ways of addressing our fiscal situation =C2=A0help mitigate the assaul= t?<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s= tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&q= uot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p cla= ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&= quot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Everything is connected=E2=80= =A6<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span= style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&= quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><div>= <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm= 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:= 10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowte= xt">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam= ily:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href=3D= "mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [m= ailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebu= cto.ns.ca</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lois Codling<br /><b>Sent:</b> November= 16, 2017 10:13 PM<br /><b>To:</b> Nature NS<br /><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] = Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"><= /o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown= ">=C2=A0</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very interesting map here:<br /><b= ><a href=3D"https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-cover-map= -shows-the-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forests-over-= the-past-century/">https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-co= ver-map-shows-the-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forest= s-over-the-past-century/</a><br /><br />Wish someone would do this for N.S.= <br /><br />Lois Codling</b><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div></blo= ckquote></div> </body></html> --------=_MBD095BB62-96E5-4216-928B-318051340C1F--
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