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Mac --001a1145761a05714e055ca33448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've seen several excellent photos of Banded Rudderfish taken in the strait area this summer. On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:11 PM pce <pce@accesswave.ca> wrote: > There are some lovely videos of this little fish on YouTube, for example > this one: > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOVFk_XXJMq8 > > --- Peter Payzant > > On Oct 12, 2017, at 14:56, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Billy and Jeannie for more information. > > I sent the extra information to my contact at DFO, who had to forward it > to someone who spends time in CBI. Here is the response: > > Almost definitely *Dactylopterus volitans - * Flying Gurnard. These > come up in the warmer water and then get trapped in bays and coves when t= he > water cools off. They stay in the warmer water of the bay until it too > gets too cold and then they wash up on beaches. About 3 years ago there > was a school of several hundred which washed up on Clam Harbour Beach. Th= e > same year there were also a few found on Janvrin Island next to Isle Mada= me > and Point Michaud Beach. > > > > Unfortunately for this little guy, I would say that his days are numbered= . > > > > Bill MacEachern > > > We have no representatives of this species, or family, in the collection > at StFX. This, or any other weird fish would be greatly accepted. If you > collect one for us, just plop it in the freezer with a note including, > date, location, who caught it, and any other details that may be importan= t > (e.g. "washed up on the beach", "was in the stomach of the tuna I caught"= ). > > > Randy > > > _________________________________ > RF Lauff > Way in the boonies of > Antigonish County, NS. > > On 12 October 2017 at 11:13, bdigout <bdigout@seaside.ns.ca> wrote: > >> If this helps distinguish between the two, it was 3-4 in. in length, >> flapping like a bird. Stationary at times, with only it's nose out of t= he >> water. >> >> On 10 Oct 2017 15:39, Randy Lauff wrote: >> >> Billy, >> >> I forwarded your pictures to former students of mine now working at DFO, >> Jamie Emberley and Irene Andrushchenko. Here are the responses: >> >> "I think it could be a* tres cool* northern striped gurnard (*P. evolans= *)... >> But Jamie=E2=80=99s a pessimist and is disagreeing with me on that, citi= ng the >> quality of the pictures. That having been said, he deals with fish ID >> about 10,000 times a year to my once (now twice, thanks to this email!),= so >> I would take his word over mine any day." >> >> >> >> "Hi Randy! Really difficult to say. It definitely has potential to be >> a Sea Robin and Irene may be correct with *P. evolans*. But it would be >> very difficult to get a confirmed ID on this. It also has some >> characteristics of flying gurnard (Family Dactylopteridae) but they are >> less common. Difficult to see if the pectorals are spread fully. Is th= is >> pic taken of the fish swimming at the surface? Pretty cool to see." >> >> >> >> Randy >> _________________________________ >> RF Lauff >> Way in the boonies of >> Antigonish County, NS. >> >> On 10 October 2017 at 12:43, John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> >> wrote: >> >>> Please send away; will not guarantee an ID, but don=E2=80=99t mind loo= king. >>> >>> I'm now 65; when I was in school, my father was Port Technician for the >>> Fisheries Research Board in Yarmouth. He brought home a number of weir= d >>> specimens. At some time in the mid-60's I do remember a sea robin comi= ng >>> home. Don't know where it was caught, though! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto: >>> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of bdigout >>> Sent: October 10, 2017 11:32 AM >>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>> Subject: [NatureNS] fish id? >>> >>> Could anyone help with a fish id? Jeannie Shermerhorn took a picture of >>> this fish that was "flying" through the water in the St. Peter's Canal. >>> I can send a photo. Possibly a Sea Robin, although I didn't think they >>> ventured this far north. >>> Billy >>> >>> >> >> > > -- Jamie Simpson Hantsport, NS --001a1145761a05714e055ca33448 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div><div dir=3D"auto">I've seen several excellent photos of Banded Rud= derfish taken in the strait area this summer.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_= quote"><div>On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:11 PM pce <<a href=3D"mailto:pce@a= ccesswave.ca">pce@accesswave.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>There are some lovely video= s of this little fish on YouTube, for example this one:</div><div><br></div= ><div><a href=3D"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOVFk_XXJMq8" target=3D"_bl= ank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOVFk_XXJMq8</a></div><div><br></div><d= iv>--- Peter Payzant</div><div><br>On Oct 12, 2017, at 14:56, Randy Lauff &= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">randy.lauff@g= mail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Th= anks Billy and Jeannie for more information.<div><br></div><div>I sent the = extra information to my contact at DFO, who had to forward it to someone wh= o spends time in CBI. Here is the response:</div><div><br></div><div><p cla= ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Almost definitely <i>= Dactylopterus volitans=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 </i>=C2=A0Flying Gurnard.</span><span style=3D"color= :rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0These come up in the warmer water and then get trapped in bays and coves when the water cools off.=C2=A0 They stay in the warmer water of the bay until it too gets too cold and then they wash up on beaches.=C2=A0 About 3 years ago there was a school of several hundred whic= h washed up on Clam Harbour Beach. The same year there were also a few found = on Janvrin Island next to Isle Madame and Point Michaud Beach.</span></p></div= ></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><blockquote type=3D"cite"= ><div><div><div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></= p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Unfortunately f= or this little guy, I would say that his days are numbered.<span></span></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></= p> </div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><blockquote type=3D"= cite"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,= 125)">Bill=C2=A0<span></span></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans= -serif;font-size:11pt">MacEachern</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st= yle=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font co= lor=3D"#000000">We have no representatives of this species, or family, in t= he collection at StFX. This, or any other weird fish would be greatly accep= ted. If you collect one for us, just plop it in the freezer with a note inc= luding, date, location, who caught it, and any other details that may be im= portant (e.g. "washed up on the beach", "was in the stomach = of the tuna I caught").</font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color= =3D"#000000"><br></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#000000">= Randy</font></p></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"></div></div></div></blockq= uote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div><div class= =3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"m_347286053258672098g= mail-m_-434278004609362764gmail_signature">________________________________= _<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.</div></div= > <br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><blockquote type= =3D"cite"><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O= n 12 October 2017 at 11:13, bdigout <span><<a href=3D"mailto:bdigout@sea= side.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">bdigout@seaside.ns.ca</a>></span> wrote:<b= r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde= r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u> <div> <p>If this helps distinguish between the two,=C2=A0 it was 3-4 in. in lengt= h, flapping like a bird.=C2=A0 Stationary at times, with only it's nose= out of the water.</p><span> <p>On 10 Oct 2017 15:39, Randy Lauff wrote:</p> </span><div><div class=3D"m_347286053258672098gmail-m_-434278004609362764h5= "><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding-left:5px;border-left:2px solid= rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;width:100%"> <div>Billy, <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>I forwarded your pictures to former students of mine now working at DF= O, Jamie Emberley and Irene Andrushchenko. Here are the responses:</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>"<span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-ser= if;font-size:11pt">I think it could be a<em> tres cool</em> northern stripe= d gurnard (</span><em style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,san= s-serif;font-size:11pt">P. evolans</em><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);= font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">)... But Jamie=E2=80=99s a p= essimist and is disagreeing with me on that, citing the =C2=A0quality of th= e pictures. That having been said, he deals with fish ID about 10,000 times= a year to my once (now twice, thanks to this email!), so I would take his = word over mine any day."</span></div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>"<span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-ser= if;font-size:11pt">Hi Randy!=C2=A0 Really difficult to say.=C2=A0 It defini= tely has potential to be a Sea Robin and Irene may be correct with </span><= em style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:1= 1pt">P. evolans</em><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri= ,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">. But it would be very difficult to get a confi= rmed ID on this. It also has some characteristics of flying gurnard (Family= Dactylopteridae) but they are less common.=C2=A0 Difficult to see if the p= ectorals are spread fully.=C2=A0 Is this pic taken of the fish swimming at = the surface?=C2=A0 Pretty cool to see."</span></div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"> <div> <div class=3D"m_347286053258672098gmail-m_-434278004609362764m_-79590578897= 14629619gmail-m_-2691829138508954158gmail_signature">Randy</div> <div class=3D"m_347286053258672098gmail-m_-434278004609362764m_-79590578897= 14629619gmail-m_-2691829138508954158gmail_signature">______________________= ___________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.<= /div> </div> <br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10 October 2017 at 12:43, John and Nhung <spa= n><<a href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">nhungjohn@= eastlink.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding= -left:1ex">Please send away; will not guarantee an ID, but=C2=A0 don=E2=80= =99t mind looking.<br><br> I'm now 65; when I was in school, my father = was Port Technician for the Fisheries Research Board in Yarmouth.=C2=A0 He = brought home a number of weird specimens.=C2=A0 At some time in the mid-60&= #39;s I do remember a sea robin coming home.=C2=A0 Don't know where it = was caught, though!<br> <div class=3D"m_347286053258672098gmail-m_-434278004609362764m_-79590578897= 14629619gmail-m_-2691829138508954158HOEnZb"> <div class=3D"m_347286053258672098gmail-m_-434278004609362764m_-79590578897= 14629619gmail-m_-2691829138508954158h5"><br> -----Original Message-----<br>= From: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">n= aturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@c= hebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] On Beha= lf Of bdigout<br> Sent: October 10, 2017 11:32 AM<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto= :naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>= Subject: [NatureNS] fish id?<br><br> Could anyone help with a fish id? Jea= nnie Shermerhorn took a picture of this fish that was "flying" th= rough the water in the St. Peter's Canal.<br> I can send a photo. Possi= bly a Sea Robin, although I didn't think they ventured this far north.<= br> Billy<br><br></div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <p>=C2=A0</p> <div>=C2=A0</div> </div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></= div></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-- <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data= -smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jamie Simpson<br></div= >Hantsport, NS<br></div></div> --001a1145761a05714e055ca33448--
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