[NatureNS] fish id?

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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:49:05 -0300
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There are some lovely videos of this little fish on YouTube, for example thi=
s one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOVFk_XXJMq8

--- Peter Payzant

> On Oct 12, 2017, at 14:56, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Billy and Jeannie for more information.
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> I sent the extra information to my contact at DFO, who had to forward it t=
o someone who spends time in CBI. Here is the response:
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> Almost definitely Dactylopterus volitans  -   Flying Gurnard. These come u=
p in the warmer water and then get trapped in bays and coves when the water c=
ools off.  They stay in the warmer water of the bay until it too gets too co=
ld and then they wash up on beaches.  About 3 years ago there was a school o=
f several hundred which washed up on Clam Harbour Beach. The same year there=
 were also a few found on Janvrin Island next to Isle Madame and Point Micha=
ud Beach.
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> Unfortunately for this little guy, I would say that his days are numbered.=

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> Bill MacEachern
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> We have no representatives of this species, or family, in the collection a=
t StFX. This, or any other weird fish would be greatly accepted. If you coll=
ect one for us, just plop it in the freezer with a note including, date, loc=
ation, who caught it, and any other details that may be important (e.g. "was=
hed up on the beach", "was in the stomach of the tuna I caught").
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> Randy
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> RF Lauff
> Way in the boonies of
> Antigonish County, NS.
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>> On 12 October 2017 at 11:13, bdigout <bdigout@seaside.ns.ca> wrote:
>> If this helps distinguish between the two,  it was 3-4 in. in length, fla=
pping like a bird.  Stationary at times, with only it's nose out of the wate=
r.
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>>> On 10 Oct 2017 15:39, Randy Lauff wrote:
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>>> Billy,
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>>> I forwarded your pictures to former students of mine now working at DFO,=
 Jamie Emberley and Irene Andrushchenko. Here are the responses:
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>>> "I think it could be a tres cool northern striped gurnard (P. evolans)..=
. But Jamie=A1=AFs a pessimist and is disagreeing with me on that, citing th=
e  quality of the pictures. That having been said, he deals with fish ID abo=
ut 10,000 times a year to my once (now twice, thanks to this email!), so I w=
ould take his word over mine any day."
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>>> "Hi Randy!  Really difficult to say.  It definitely has potential to be a=
 Sea Robin and Irene may be correct with P. evolans. But it would be very di=
fficult to get a confirmed ID on this. It also has some characteristics of f=
lying gurnard (Family Dactylopteridae) but they are less common.  Difficult t=
o see if the pectorals are spread fully.  Is this pic taken of the fish swim=
ming at the surface?  Pretty cool to see."
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>>> Randy
>>> _________________________________
>>> RF Lauff
>>> Way in the boonies of
>>> Antigonish County, NS.
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>>>> On 10 October 2017 at 12:43, John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wro=
te:
>>>> Please send away; will not guarantee an ID, but  don=A1=AFt mind lookin=
g.
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>>>> I'm now 65; when I was in school, my father was Port Technician for the=
 Fisheries Research Board in Yarmouth.  He brought home a number of weird sp=
ecimens.  At some time in the mid-60's I do remember a sea robin coming home=
.  Don't know where it was caught, though!
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.=
ca] On Behalf Of bdigout
>>>> Sent: October 10, 2017 11:32 AM
>>>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>> Subject: [NatureNS] fish id?
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>>>> Could anyone help with a fish id? Jeannie Shermerhorn took a picture of=
 this fish that was "flying" through the water in the St. Peter's Canal.
>>>> I can send a photo. Possibly a Sea Robin, although I didn't think they v=
entured this far north.
>>>> Billy
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>There are some lovely video=
s of this little fish on YouTube, for example this one:</div><div><br></div>=
<div><a href=3D"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOVFk_XXJMq8">https://m.youtu=
be.com/watch?v=3DOVFk_XXJMq8</a></div><div><br></div><div>--- Peter Payzant<=
/div><div><br>On Oct 12, 2017, at 14:56, Randy Lauff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r=
andy.lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Billy and Jeannie for mor=
e information.<div><br></div><div>I sent the extra information to my contact=
 at DFO, who had to forward it to someone who spends time in CBI. Here is th=
e response:</div><div><br></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125)">Almost definitely <i>Dactylopterus
volitans&nbsp; -&nbsp; </i>&nbsp;Flying Gurnard.</span><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;These come up in the warmer water and then get
trapped in bays and coves when the water cools off.&nbsp; They stay in the
warmer water of the bay until it too gets too cold and then they wash up on
beaches.&nbsp; About 3 years ago there was a school of several hundred which=

washed up on Clam Harbour Beach. The same year there were also a few found o=
n
Janvrin Island next to Isle Madame and Point Michaud Beach.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p=
>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Unfortunately fo=
r this little
guy, I would say that his days are numbered.<span></span></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">&nbsp;</span></p=
>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Bill&nbsp;<span>=
</span></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=
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