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ositive with regards to that species.& CPs have a bit of edge there. They can tolerate up to about 15ppt salinity, so have been suspected to move in near-shore estuarine waters during spring and fall freshets A ________________________________________ From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] on behalf of rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca [rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca] Sent: April-21-17 12:55 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] managing invasives and naturalised species-why do we do it? Well Peter the difference is in my limited view is that Browns and Rainbows spread via salt water and CP are unable to do this. Browns have been reported from PEI where they were never introduced. Rainbows on PEI took about 50 years to make an impact from an angling view. So we can expect both to spread slowly but surely. CP on the other hand are like a grass fire in the spring. They take up every corner quickly! The angling regulations in NS don't favor the fishing of either Browns or Rainbows. Night time and salt water are prime times for sport fishing either and both come into fresh water late in the year and leave early. So I suspect the total numbers of either is under estimated. But the laws are made by 9 - 5 ers so I guess that wouldn't change! But what do I know but I e njoy the spring Hope you do too! Paul On April 21, 2017 at 8:02 AM Hubcove@aol.com wrote: I always find it interesting that the chain pickerel comes up often as an invasive species but I have yet to see any complaints or comments on brown trout. Peter Stow Hubbards In a message dated 2017-04-21 5:40:00 A.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, dcrossland@eastlink.ca writes: I have to give you credit in your strategic thinking and knowledgeable depth of retrospective! If only certain departments would manage these fisheries, they might soon be over-fished and the ecological nightmare created by naive or selfish sports fisheries could be mitigated somewhat. Why IS there a bag limit on any invasive fish?? Then again, I suppose we could extend this argument to the bag limits for ring-necked pheasant (noisy squawking birds, though tasty... but not better than our woodcock and grouse) and the naturalized deer (deer that incur great damage to our hardwood stands, Canada Yew (with Cancer-fighting agents), etc, impacting the successional trajectory of our natural forests, yet we spend a lot of tax dollars managing the herd and bag limits geared to keep them around). I'll take a moose steak any day over venison. Maybe we can add it to the election platform soon to unfold. I think we need an entire ecologically-based political platform in the next round. Our natural resources and native biodiversity are in trouble, both on the land and in the water. Then there's climate change added to the mix... ecology is "messy" and growing more complicated. Donna -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of John and Nhung Sent: April-19-17 7:52 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits My point was that if more people recognize pickerel as tasty, more people will eat them (rather than throwing them back, for instance!). I wish NS Fisheries would lift the "bag" limit on smallmouth bass, as well. They are another disaster that doesn’t belong here. But here they are. Enthusiastically-pursued fisheries have a long history of reducing target populations ... -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Donna Crossland Sent: April 19, 2017 7:29 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits Oh goodness! I meant the GEESE are tasty, not than the chain pickerel! No, no, no! Perhaps the pickerel are tasty, too, but you'll not likely ever hear me say anything positive with regards to that species. I am dismayed by the introduction of chain pickerel to our lakes. The small mouthed bass and chain pickerel are altering our fresh water ecosystems in profound ways. I am told we can expect nearly "silent springs" as they voraciously consume our frogs and toads on the lake edges. They are about to spread to the last wild places remaining. It's sad, very sad. We shall mourn the trout and remnant salmon populations. Donna Crossland -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Hebda, Andrew J Sent: April-18-17 10:15 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits The taste and angling value of the pickerel is high... However its introduction into watershed has been disasterous. Back in 1949 Dan Livingstone sampled lakes and rivers in Nova Scotia, coming up with the first comprehensive list of freshwater fish for the province. John Gilhen and I were joined by him 50 years later and we re-sampled many of the same bodies of water. Where the chain pickerel had been introduced, or spread to, the diversity of fish went from 7-11 species to 2-3.. independent of water chemistry, geology or any other measurable factor A Hebda From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] on behalf of John and Nhung [nhungjohn@eastlink.ca] Sent: April-18-17 9:58 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: RE: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits I wish more Nova Scotians appreciated pickerel. The Vietnamese gang down Yarmouth way turns this ugly-looking critter into various dishes, all infinitely more interesting than haddock! -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Donna Crossland Sent: April 18, 2017 8:50 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: [NatureNS] widowed goose and tasty tidbits That's a hilarious (well sort of) tale of the widowed urban goose. She likely few back to Toronto? I'm with Lance and the Cape Bretoners. This expanding species is quite delicious baked in orange juice, wild rice and cranberries, etc. Now if only I could acquire a taste for glossy buckthorn salad. Donna -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Fred Schueler Sent: April-18-17 12:43 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh KIngfisher On 4/18/2017 11:11 AM, Laviolette, Lance wrote: > “Truck loads from TO” reminds me of a story... * ...on our 2002 James Bay Expedition - http://pinicola.ca/g2003b.htm - we found a very tame single Canada Goose at a boatlunch ram