[NatureNS] Conrad Beach - Dogs Off Leash

Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 09:44:59 -0300 (ADT)
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   Hi Andrew
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   Today in the PEI Daily paper an article states
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   that pets are no longer permitted on the beaches of PEI
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   National&#160; Parks. Seems a step in the right direction but 
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   my guess it will only make more dogs on public beaches.
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   Enjoy the last of winter
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   Paul
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   On April 15, 2016 at 11:40 AM Andrew Stadnyk &#60;Andrew.Stadnyk@Dal.Ca&#62; wrote:
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    <p>Unfortunately, I even get that kind of dog-owner response in the leash-on part of Point Pleasant Park in Halifax, particularly along the beach (looking for birds in the water of course). The dog owner tries to make it sound like my displeasure and discomfort with their dog jumping on me is my problem! I would be concerned that the park staff, if they are ever visible, might think the same.</p> 
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    <p>Andy Stadnyk</p> 
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      <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><strong>From:</strong> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca &#60;naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca&#62; on behalf of rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca &#60;rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca&#62;<br/> <strong>Sent:</strong> April 15, 2016 10:21 AM<br/> <strong>To:</strong> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br/> <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [NatureNS] Conrad Beach - Dogs Off Leash</span> 
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       It reminds me of the time Fritz I was walking on a NS beach.
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       I had a Lab dog on leash beside me. She walked at heal always
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       so a leash was no problem.
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       Other folks had a large dog running free chasing gulls, peeps and whatever else.
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       It came over to me and it was growling. I was scared for my dog so I reached in
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       my pocket and took out a pocket knife and put it in my hand. That is one thing in dog
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       defence courses that is recommended. Diverts the dogs attention - anyway it had the desired effect.
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       But its owner followed me to the parking and reported me to the RCMP for pulling a knife
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       on them. One of the officers out of &#160;the shallow end of their gene pool phoned me and
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       gave me a warning! When I asked about their dog&#39;s chasing birds in spite of the signs she said
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       &#34;we&#39;ll not get into that kettle of fish!&#34;
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       I hope she doesn&#39;t reproduce!
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       Dogs and their owners are not an easy problem to solve.
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       Enjoy the spring
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       On April 15, 2016 at 9:44 AM Fritz McEvoy &#60;fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com&#62; wrote: 
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        <p>&#160; &#160; &#160;Hi All,&#160;</p> 
        <p>&#160; &#160; &#160;Paul&#39;s idea is a good one. Unfortunately,&#160;my experience is that any sign restricting access to beaches by unleashed dogs&#160;and&#160;ATV&#39;s or even pointing out that the beach is a Piping Plover nesting site is subject to removal or vandalism by those that believe&#160;their need for&#160;unfettered access to the beach&#160;supplants &#160;any law or restriction to their opinion.</p> 
        <p>&#160; &#160; &#160;The only signs that I&#39;ve heard about that seem to work (and I don&#39;t recall&#160;exactly where I saw it)&#160;were homemade signs constructed by local young people. Their advantage seemed to be that they weren&#39;t threatening and vandals didn&#39;t seem to want to upset the parents of sign&#160;makers. &#160;All the best.</p> 
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          <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><strong>From:</strong> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca &#60;naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca&#62; on behalf of Paul Murray &#60;pwmurray.murray911@gmail.com&#62;<br/> <strong>Sent:</strong> April 15, 2016 7:40 AM<br/> <strong>To:</strong> NatureNS<br/> <strong>Subject:</strong> [NatureNS] Conrad Beach - Dogs Off Leash</span> 
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               Further to discussions about the off leash dog problem at Conrad Beach: 
              </div> I&#39;ll bet a lot of offenders have no clue about the consequences of their dogs running off leash at Conrad (or other sensitive beaches for that matter) and thus they need a clear warning such as a specific sign posted by DNR or other authority.&#160; 
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              <br/> I think if such a sign posted as a &#34;WARNING&#34; and the facts stated that this is an environmentally protected beach and owners of dogs running off leash are subject to being fined.[state the fine value] and then at the bottom list the phone number to report offenders. 
             </div> Admittedly, we post speed limits on our roads and some will not follow them regardless.&#160; But speed signs carry a specific penalty that everyone knows about and they break the rules at their own peril.&#160;&#160; Without a specific warning sign at the sensitive beaches, a lot of people may not know they are breaking the rules and are subject to a fine.&#160; However, if informed &#34;formally&#34;&#160; by a sign posting, they will then have no excuse for letting there dogs of leash.&#160; I believe it would be a great deterrent if the sign obviously requests the public to report offenders by providing the phone number on the sign.&#160; Offenders knowing that anybody on the beach with a cell phone could report them and that they would be subject to a fine should be enough to gain better compliance. 
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