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=20 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0259_01D16284.E47D0A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nick, Where were floodplains converted to agriculture in NS ? A smattering = in NB but none is NS that I am aware of. Some Salmon River floodplains = were mined for gravel when the 100 series highways were built near there = and I think some floodplains near Oxford were mined.=20 Floodplains are enriched by the silt deposited by floodwaters each = year; e.g. Nile, Tigrus not by trees which may take advantage of the = enriched soil. Yt, DW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nicholas Hill=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we rather a = car with the same two trees? Hey John yes tree roots are purported to be amazing N and P pumps and can take = up nutrients before they reach waterways..90% range according to Maltby = who was working on big rivers of Europe. when you lose trees you lose these pumps and go to lower functional = states and herbaceous plants arent a lick on trees. The tree was an engineer of floodplains in big ways and we lost a lot = of that when we converted floodplain for agriculture. This floodplain = forest is what supports a good group of the Appalachian Deciduous Forest = species..bloodroot, blue cohosh Canada violet (?) wild coffee, Canada = Lily, wild garlic, yellow violets, toothwort, Solomon's plume..and this = is the habitat we need right now to let us preserve the diversity that = is expanding northward and may be eliminated from Kentucky in time. I'm = looking forward to being able to eat pawpaws, crush spicebush leaves and = swing on forest grape vines in my nineties in Nova Scotia but first we = need to secure and restore floodplain habitat. must be midwinter=20 On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:05 PM, David & Alison Webster = <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: Hi John & All, Any deep-rooted plant will move nutrients to the surface if that = is what you mean. Grasses are in general better than trees because their = fine roots can penetrate the pores of rigid soils not accessible to tree = roots. This is why Agropyron repens (Couch) is such a vigorous weed. And = why the fertility of Prairie soil is immense. Yt, DW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John and Nhung=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 12:06 PM Subject: RE: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we = rather a car with the same two trees? When I was a CUSO volunteer in Northeast Thailand, thirty-odd = years ago, our country Director (a soil scientist by training) called = trees =E2=80=9Cnutrient pumps.=E2=80=9D =20 Made eminent sense in an area with terrible soils, with minimal = organic content. From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Nicholas Hill Sent: February 8, 2016 11:44 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we = rather a car with the same two trees? Trees have been called environmental engineers as they make = habitat and set up the food web. We are very lucky to have neighbours = that let us walk and bring kids through their woods that are in good = condition with large mature trees of pines and hemlock. We saw the = strips of tree felling from the microbursts that we called the Berwick = Blow of a few winters ago that took out some 200 year old hemlock but we = also see blow down along a line between two properties where still = another neighbour has clearcut and it has made it not possible to ski in = the adjacent uncut property over a 40m width due to blow down.=20 On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:06 AM, David & Alison Webster = <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: Hi Dusan, Yes and no. A sufficiently high wind can mow a swath through = undisturbed forest. And counting Dec 13, 2010 (ignoring Juan because it = was local) we have had two high winds recently; one even in May, 2013 = (?). And many winds which finish the job or start fresh ones. The Kentville ravine is a good example; the 2010 wind felled a = significant area of Hemlock/hardwood. In my woods more Poplar went over = than 5 households could use both as 'scattered' trees of up to 6 in one = domino and two areas (~1 acre & 2 acres) where nearly every tree went = down. Most large Spruce which survived 2010 were taken in 2013.=20 =20 I think we are in a new era of damaging winds. Note that Juan = took large trees and spared medium trees. With regard to canopy = protection this no doubt helps but if trees grow with space they are = better anchored than trees which grow crowded.=20 Yt, DW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dusan Soudek=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we = rather a car with the same two trees? =EF=BB=BF To Donna, David, et al;=20 one of the obvious way trees in a forest cooperate is protection = against strong winds. A solitary tree is unlikely to withstand = windstorms, a forest with an intact canopy usually does. But, on the = other hand, there is brutal competition for sunlight in a forest. Taller = trees inhibit the growth of smaller trees, often their conspecifics and = even their own descendants. Of the millions and millions of seeds a = mature tree will produce over its lifetime, on the average only one will = reach maturity...=20 Dusan Soudek=20 On February 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM David & Alison Webster = <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:=20 Hi Donna &