[NatureNS] re no-go! for Never Forgotten Mother Canada Memorial

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I am a hazard on the course. Doug!


On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Doug Linzey <doug.linzey@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don't forget that the Ingonish course goes back to an earlier era (the
> '30s, I  believe).  Besides, it was built as a links course  - -  minimal
> interference with nature, walking only. So at least until recent
> "improvements" it was not much of a burden. If  anything, it may have
> attracted visitors who might never have otherwise entered a national park=
.
>
> As for its impact today, I can't comment, but it may bear looking into.
>
> Doug Linzey
> On Feb 7, 2016 10:47 AM, "Nicholas Hill" <fernhillns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly..carved out of a wilderness..similar phrasing was used by the
>> developer of Dartmouth Crossing who wrote about transforming a wasteland
>> into something worthwhile. That wasteland was wilderness.
>>
>> Golf is a harder sell, particularly where it undermines ecological
>> integrity. Old farms would be a better fit for a golf course.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:41 AM, N Robinson <nrobbyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Great videos, but too short.
>>>
>>> I was shocked to find we have a golf course in a national park, in Cape
>>> Breton,  "carved out of one of Canada"s most pristine wildernesses" ...=
!
>>>
>>> From Parks Canada website:
>>> http://www.pc.gc.ca/eng/pn-np/ns/cbreton/activ/golf.aspx
>>>
>>> "The Highlands Links Golf Course is one of a kind.  Conceived and
>>> constructed under the watchful eye of world-renowned designer Stanley
>>> Thompson, it is a classic 18-hole, par 72 links course carved out of on=
e of
>>> Canada's most pristine wildernesses."
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Donna Crossland <dcrossland@eastlink.ca=
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is good to point this out, John.
>>>>
>>>> The voice of the biologist/ecologist has been muted under some new
>>>> policies and =E2=80=98rules=E2=80=99.  Perhaps the present government =
will turn this
>>>> around.  There were those who spoke out from the safety of retirement;=
 some
>>>> who had occupied very high places within the organization.  There was =
a
>>>> letter signed by several of them.  Additionally, there are these utube
>>>> videos (links below).   They =E2=80=98say it all=E2=80=99.   I trained=
 as a Park Warden
>>>> with Kevin Van Tigum back in 1993 in Jasper; a very gifted man and
>>>> excellent naturalist, too.   (Back then I was adamant to find during m=
y
>>>> spare time the =E2=80=9Cdipper bird=E2=80=9D that I=E2=80=99d seen on =
a documentary.  Kevin took on
>>>> the task and hosted an unforgettable western birding experience.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those of us who are still in the system have been warned to be careful=
.
>>>>   Sending this email is questionable.  Maybe things will change now, b=
ut
>>>> Canadians need to remain vigilant on how THEIR national parks are run,=
 and
>>>> speak out when they feel the mandate is being ignored.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtGmlqGPMQ_k
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1qZFT9D8Vpk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:
>>>> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *John and Nhung
>>>> *Sent:* February-06-16 7:56 PM
>>>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] re no-go! for Never Forgotten Mother Canada
>>>> Memorial
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *That* is what needs to be said, and what troubles me is that this has
>>>> not been invoked as a reason for stepping back from the project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If someone in authority doesn=E2=80=99t explicitly point out the confl=
ict with
>>>> the mandate, it=E2=80=99ll happen again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [
>>>> mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>] =
*On
>>>> Behalf Of *Donna Crossland
>>>> *Sent:* February 6, 2016 7:32 PM
>>>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] re no-go! for Never Forgotten Mother Canada
>>>> Memorial
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was a huge departure from the Parks Canada mandate.  I was beginnin=
g
>>>> to think that we=E2=80=99d completely lost our way...  Great news!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [
>>>> mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>] =
*On
>>>> Behalf Of *Jim Wolford
>>>> *Sent:* February-05-16 5:52 PM
>>>> *To:* naturens
>>>> *Subject:* [NatureNS] re no-go! for Never Forgotten Mother Canada
>>>> Memorial
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was obviously to busy reading and writing about eagles to have seen
>>>> the naturens dialogue today on this.  I have been against this from th=
e
>>>> get-go on account of the proposed location plus the size and garishnes=
s of
>>>> the whole idea.  Thanks for everyone=E2=80=99s comments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote=
:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Dave, for bringing this up.  I have very good news.  I heard o=
n
>>>> the 1 p.m. CBC Radio news that Parks Canada has apparently completed t=
heir
>>>> review of the proposed project, determined that there were just too ma=
ny
>>>> important questions about it, and that this project will not go ahead =
on
>>>> any Parks Canad