[NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation

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Hi Nick & All,
    With respect to Atrazine, and pesticides in general, I would guess =
that roughly 95% of the research effort has been directed to =
environmental protection. Have a look at Pesticides in the Soil =
Environment: Processes, Impacts, and Modeling, Soil Sci. Soc Amer. Book =
Series No. 2., ed. H.H.Cheng, 530 pp.,1990.

    Spray and weigh trials are fairly straightforward but making sure =
that materials and their degredation products do not lead directly to =
environmental harm is a huge undertaking.
   =20
Yt, DW, Kentville

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Nicholas Hill=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 7:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide =
Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation


  David,
  no confusion here. Listserve focus is on nature not human safety. =
Atrazine article deals with human safety concerns not biodiversity.
  If we want to take a stand on pesticides it would be for their =
biodiversity implications of which there are tons. Roundup is an example =
but there are many
  showing impacts of other pesticides on native bees and other =
pollinators.
  Nick


  http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/04-1291/abstract

  http://www.jstor.org/stable/40983228?seq=3D1#page_scan_tab_contents





  On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:02 PM, David & Alison Webster =
<dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:

    Hi Nick,
        The item dealt with Atrazine not Roundup. Best not to confuse =
matters.=20
    Dave W   =20

    ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Nicholas Hill=20
      To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
      Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:12 PM
      Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide =
Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation


      Gyphosate (roundup) going under radar despite the lethal impacts =
of amphibian larvae (ca 98% kill) from the surfactant used to get the =
pesticide across the plant's cuticle.=20
      Not supposed to be used near water courses but amphibians are in =
swampy woods.
      As naturalists, impacts on natural world are our major =
responsibility. Physicians (royal...Ontario. .forget the association)  =
did take a stand against recreational and household usage of pesticide =
on the basis of human health risk. We can stand up for nature.

      Nick

      On Feb 3, 2016 5:59 PM, "N Robinson" <nrobbyn@gmail.com> wrote:

        Hello everyone,


         A member of the Quebec branch of the Sierra Club just sent me =
an email regarding Canada's Pest Management Regulatory Agency doing a =
re-evaluation of the pesticide Atrazine (announced December 15 2015).


        Some of you, more knowledgeable than I, might want to send them =
some feedback.

         =
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/pest/part/consultations/_rev2015-11/rev201=
5-11-eng.php

        Re-evaluation Note REV2015-11, Special Review of Atrazine: =
Proposed Decision for Consultation


        Nancy

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<DIV>Hi Nick &amp; All,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; With respect to Atrazine, and pesticides in=20
general,&nbsp;I would guess that roughly 95% of the research effort has =
been=20
directed to environmental protection. Have a look at Pesticides in the =
Soil=20
Environment: Processes, Impacts, and Modeling, Soil Sci. Soc Amer. Book =
Series=20
No. 2., ed. H.H.Cheng, 530 pp.,1990.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Spray and weigh trials are fairly =
straightforward but=20
making sure that materials and their degredation products do not lead =
directly=20
to environmental harm is a huge undertaking.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>Yt, DW, Kentville</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <A title=3Dfernhillns@gmail.com =
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  consultation re use of pesticide Atrazine in Canada: a =
re-evaluation</DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>David,
  <DIV>no confusion here. Listserve focus is on nature not human safety. =

  Atrazine article deals with human safety concerns not =
biodiversity.</DIV>
  <DIV>If we want to take a stand on pesticides it would be for their=20
  biodiversity implications of which there are tons. Roundup is an =
example but=20
  there are many</DIV>
  <DIV>showing impacts of other pesticides on native bees and other=20
  pollinators.</DIV>
  &